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Niki

When you say "Jesus" you've said everything.

Niki

#101
Well, I got a bit of a surprise tonight. My husband and I were texting about some financial things (non-stressful) tonight. (Texting has been his preferred means of communication for several months now.) Then he told me that a co-worker of his should be coming by this weekend to pick up some things for him from the storage building. (All he has in there are car parts and tools.) The co-worker is supposed to send whatever it is my husband needs to where he is in Denver.

I said, "Okay. I love you." Then he said, "I still love you too."

Wow. You know, it's pretty sad not only when it surprises you that your husband says he loves you, but also when it makes you wonder what he's up to. Is he trying to soften a blow that's coming?

It's too bad he's made me not trust him.

I'm trying not to let this get my hopes up too high. Because I could do that. "Ooh, I wonder if he'll be moving back home soon."

Actions speak louder than words. Especially when they're texted to you. lol So I reckon I'm in a wait-and-see place.

Y'all keep praying, please.


***edited in***

Oh, forgot to say that I think the reason he might want some things out of his building is because someone stole my mom's lawnmower from behind our house a couple days ago. He's probably worried that someone might break into the building and steal some of his valuable parts or tools.


~
When you say "Jesus" you've said everything.

Niki

#102
Please pray. I'm hurting so badly right now. I'm crying as I type this. My husband came back to the area, wherever he's staying, Saturday night. He hasn't come by to see the kids. He texted me asking if he could take the kids with him to his sister's house in Raleigh for this coming weekend.

He said he wants to see them for more than a few hours, the way he has the few times he has seen them since he left. I told him that if he comes home, he can see them all he wants. He only gets to see them for a few hours because he made it that way. It's the choice he made.

I can't tell you how badly it hurts to be rejected and excluded. We've always done things as a family. He's the one who has insisted that the kids not know that he's moved out. So I asked him what he's going to tell them about why I'm not with them. He said he doesn't know.

I've asked him to please come home. I told him that our kids deserve to have their father living here with them. That they miss him so much and need him. I also told him that I love him and miss him. Nothing seems to move him.

Please pray that God will do something and bring my husband home. It hurts so much to know he's just 30 minutes away, but chooses not to see his own kids. Chooses not to see me and chooses not to live with his family. The family he's responsible for protecting and loving and leading.
When you say "Jesus" you've said everything.

The Cold Water Kid

Quote from: Niki on June 15, 2010, 03:40:14 PM
Please pray that God will do something and bring my husband home.
Several years ago, not long after I got in church, my younger brother's wife left him. He wanted God to do "something" too. I, like you, knew God could do anything so I encouraged him that God could reach her somehow, but when we visited several ministers and elders looking for prayer and advice they all said the same thing; basically, God wasn't going to force her to desire reconciliation. It takes two willing people for a relationship to be healed. Of course I didn't really believe it; I knew faith could move mountains.... but it turned out they were right. In my humble opinion,  if God were in the business of forcing people to love then He'd force them to love Him, the most important love in their life. But it just doesn't work that way, and torturing yourself week after week, month after month, year after year won't change it.
Have you considering talking to your doctor about this situation? He can prescribe you medication that will give you some relief from this obsession... a fresh perspective might do you good.

TheGirl

I don't think its an obsession to want the person that married you to live with you. Sure she's going through a bad time, but asking for medication to take the pain away isn't being faithful in God, and Gods people of all shouldn't be discouraging those who are trying to be faithful. I'm sorry for both of these situations (The Cold Water Kids brother and Niki) but Niki you are so strong, I have been reading this thread for a while now. No, God won't MAKE your husband do the right thing, but he will help you through this, if your husband comes home or if he doesn't. Don't give up! I'll be praying for you the best I know how and I know there are many other people on here that have read this and are praying also!

The Cold Water Kid

Quote from: TheGirl on June 15, 2010, 07:23:26 PM
I don't think its an obsession to want the person that married you to live with you.
obsession - the domination of one's thoughts or feelings by a persistent idea, image, desire, etc. (taken from dictionary.com).

I don't use the word in a derogatory way, but this is clearly an obsession. Not only is it an obessesion, but it's not Biblical:

# 1 Corinthians 7:15
But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace.

Would you describe what she is living in now as peace? Of course not!

Quote from: TheGirl on June 15, 2010, 07:23:26 PM
but asking for medication to take the pain away isn't being faithful in God, and Gods people of all shouldn't be discouraging those who are trying to be faithful.
This is simply not true. Taking medication for an illness, physical or mental, does not equate with being unfaithful to God.

Niki

#106
lol

Actually, God gave me peace a few months ago. I know He's going to take care of me. I have no doubts of that. I also have no doubt in God's Word that with God all things are possible and that nothing is too hard for Him. By this do I mean that God will force my husband to do the right thing? No. But I do believe that God knows just what it takes to reach my husband and I will not give up on my husband as long as there is breath in my body.

Really, the only time I feel upset is when my husband does or says something new that is against what's right. Most of the time, weeks, sometimes months, will go by with no new bad or hurtful thing being said. It was only a week or two ago that my husband told me he still loves me.

As long as my husband is still alive, there is hope.

As for I Corinthians 7:15, my husband is a backslider, not an unbeliever. Some may think they're the same thing, but I do not. I've been a backslider before, but I still believed in God and the truth of His Word.

God commands wives to love their husbands and to be faithful to them. No conditions attached. I will obey God. And I will trust Him to bring my husband back to Him (He did it before, He can do it again) and I will trust Him to bring my husband home.

I will not give up. I will not lose faith. I refuse. To believe that God will not save my husband and bring him home is to not have faith in God. I have faith in God. No matter how long it takes, I will have that longsuffering, enduring love that I Corinthians 13 talks about. A love that waits for as long as it has to wait. A love that never ends and never gives up. That is true love and that is the love I have for my husband.

And I do not need medication. Just because I feel sad and frustrated sometimes doesn't mean I'm losing my grip or that I'm swimming in a dark sea of despair that I cannot escape. I'd be more concerned if I didn't  feel sad sometimes.

God is more than able to give peace that passes understanding. Which He's already done for me. I cast my cares on Him.

~
When you say "Jesus" you've said everything.

Melody

#107
man, I tried to reply by my phone earlier and it didn't work.

There is a big difference between having faith and obsessing unhealthily.  The lack of testimonies in no way should deter a person from holdind on.  I'm skeptical to heed elders who's generation pacified saints for divorce & remarriage till the % is the same in church as it is out, something is terribly wrong w/ that.  Fast and seek God for a clear Word from Him is all there is I would know to do/say.  Unless there is a clear end to the marriage, it is not unGodly to hold tight.  By CWK's perspective, all intercessors should stop.

Medication is never the answer when it's a life/emotional/spiritual issue- period.  Medication does nothing but INCREASE depressing thoughts and suicide, it numbs the natural system made to release the pressure of stress- stress that can change us, bring revelation.  No, that kind of medication is for those who lack submission to God, God brings balance and sensibility, even if it doesn't seem logical to the immature and inexperienced.  


Praise God Niki, that God has given you a stable mind, even in the midst of heartache.  That you are holding to what the Word of God says above what man does.  THAT is a testimony worth repeating to others!

The Cold Water Kid

#108
Quote from: MellowYellow on June 16, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
I'm skeptical to heed elders who's generation pacified saints for divorce & remarriage till the % is the same in church as it is out, something is terribly wrong w/ that.
You're preaching to the choir on this issue; I never said anything about divorce. The Bible makes no allowance for believers to divorce and remarry. As for your thoughts on medication, all I can say is I know of two licensed ministers who were having problems and needed medication for a time, and several more saints. There is a difference between the brain and the mind in a Biblical sense. The mind is spiritual, but the brain is very much an organ of the body and therefore subject to the same rules of the flesh as the heart, liver, kidney, etc.

Quote from: Niki on June 16, 2010, 04:34:25 AM
As for I Corinthians 7:15, my husband is a backslider, not an unbeliever. Some may think they're the same thing, but I do not.
I agree with you, a backslider is a horse of a different color. But the justification Paul uses is not that the person is an unbeliever but that we are called to live peaceably with all men. If we take your interpretation then the verse might read like this:
1 Corinthians 7:15 (New International Version)

15But if the unbeliever leaves,[don't] let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has [not] called us to live in peace [in such circumstances].

I don't believe Paul would sign his name to a sentence like the one above. The last part of verse 15 shows us why we should let the erring party go - for the sake of living in peace. What might happen if your husband got it in his head that the only way he could get right with God would be to come back to you? This could easily happen in a backslider's mind, and it could lead to the destruction of his soul... which is really what the devil has been after all along. If you really want him to be saved, stop criticizing him and pointing out his faults. Love, true love, covers transgressions; its desire is to hide shameful behavior, not to expose it.

Please don't take what I'm saying in a critical way, I feel for your situation. You want a "road to Damascus" experience for your husband; the rich man in Luke 16:19 wanted one for his brothers too, but it's never going to happen. How can I say that? Because there is a critical difference between your husband and Saul (later Paul) - Saul had a clear conscience with God.

When we set ourselves up like toll booth operators on the road between a person and God, there's a chance that our price for passage might be more than they are able to pay.

Babs

Quote from: MellowYellow on June 16, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
There is a big difference between having faith and obsessing unhealthily.


agreed! if everyone just let the spouse walk away and never keep faith. what was the point of the marriage anyway? i think in our churches its been made so easy now to just walk off and go find someone else.

i dont know about anyone else but i think there is a good reason God had the "death till we part" put in there. sometimes i wonder (even though my divorce was because of severe physical abuse) what would have happened had i held to my faith, prayed and fasted and interceded for him?

just my  :twocents:
Religion is worthless until it is able to move outside the walls.

My latest blog post.

SippinTea

*Hugs* Niki because I'm really proud of her for doing what God has asked her to do, even in the face of criticism and rude comments. Hold your course, Niki. As long as your feet are running hard after God you're on the right path. And His approval means infinitely more than the approval of peers.

Quote from: Just Plain Ole Barb on June 16, 2010, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: MellowYellow on June 16, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
There is a big difference between having faith and obsessing unhealthily.


agreed! if everyone just let the spouse walk away and never keep faith. what was the point of the marriage anyway? i think in our churches its been made so easy now to just walk off and go find someone else.

i dont know about anyone else but i think there is a good reason God had the "death till we part" put in there. sometimes i wonder (even though my divorce was because of severe physical abuse) what would have happened had i held to my faith, prayed and fasted and interceded for him?

just my  :twocents:

*tips her head and ponders several things*

Barb, that was really big of you to even say that.

~Ruby
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

Niki

I've been very peaceful with my husband. Not once have I called him names or told him that he was going to hell. Not once have I spoken down to him. Most women in my place would have all kinds of not-so-nice things to say. And most of it would be true. But I know that saying such things to him will not help. I don't want to push him away. I always speak kindly to him and I always tell him I love him. It is my hope that my love and my kindness (my "sweet spirit", some have called it) will help to draw him back home.

As for him having to come back to me to get right with God, I believe that he can get right with God first. As in, repent and get refilled with the Holy Ghost. But he cannot disobey God's commands for husbands and be right with God. God commands husbands to "dwell with" their wives, love them, provide for them (which is more than financial), have sex with them, and honor them. My husband is still paying the bills, thank God. But he is neglecting me and the kids in every other way - spiritually, emotionally, physically. A man cannot turn his back on his God-commanded responsibilities and be right with God.

This isn't just about my heart and the hearts of my children. It's about my husband's soul and how his neglect could effect the souls of my children. Fathers have a big influence on their children. If a boy isn't getting the love and the example he needs from his father, he may turn to crime or drugs or any other ungodly thing. A girl will seek love in promiscuous sex. And whatever example a father (and mother) gives his children is what they will expect in their own marriages. My son could grow up thinking it's perfectly fine and normal not to be with his wife and kids on a regular basis. My daughter could think it's fine if her husband isn't around much. But it's not fine.

Naturally, I'm praying that my kids do not follow their father's example. And I'm praying that God protects their souls and guides their footsteps. And I will teach my children from God's Word what husbands and wives are supposed to do for each other, how they're supposed to love each other and how marriage is supposed to be. (All without pointing out their father, of course.) I'm also praying that my husband comes back home while there's still time to be a good example to our kids and to be the father they need.

Kids also see the spiritual walks of their parents. It reminds me of a message I heard Bro. Arnold preach about praise and worship. In his message, he talked about how Michal got her non-worshipping spirit from her non-worshipping father Saul. He was her example and he was a bad one. She criticized her worshipping husband David and God made her barren.

Bro. Arnold went on to say that it's more important for our kids to "slide into the altar" than it is for them to slide into second base. What kids need, he said, is a "snot-slinging", cryin, praying, worshipping dad. A dad who's on fire for God. I want this desperately for my kids. They need it.


Mel,
You said to pray and fast for a word from God. Which, I'm sure you don't doubt, I've done a lot of. I was just thinking about that yesterday. How that until God tells me to give up, to let go of my husband; until He tells me that it's over, I will not give up. God has yet to tell me that my husband isn't coming back. Anytime He's spoken to me in His Word it's been scriptures of encouragment. Scriptures that tell me He heard me the first time I prayed. Scriptures that tell me that He will supply my need, He will provide, to seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, that He sees me, that He hears me, that He loves me, that He will take care of me. God has told me not to fear, that it's not over until He says it's over. Which He hasn't done.

Throughout this trial, God has shown me, because I sought it out, what He commands of me as a woman and a wife. He has shown me more deeply what marriage is supposed to be. Divorce is not an option. (It's a sin.) Just accepting things and letting things be as they are, regardless of how wrong they are, is not okay. We should never accept sin. We should never accept disobedience. We should never accept ungodliness. What I mean is, we should never give up fighting these things, by fighting the enemy in prayer, and just allow them to continue.

We have power over the enemy to pull down strongholds. And that's where most of my fighting has been. I don't fight my husband. I fight for  him. I show him love. It's the enemy, who led my husband astray and wants very much for our marriage to be over because of what it represents (God's union with His bride), who I fight. I bind spirits of the enemy. I plead the blood of Jesus. I anoint my home, including my husband's pillow, with oil. I ask God to send angels to my husband.  I ask Him to speak to my husband in whatever way He chooses. I ask Him to cause my husband to remember feeling God, to remember the anointed preaching of the Word, to remember godly songs.

I will not allow the enemy to have free reign. I will not roll over and let him do whatever he wants to my husband or my family. I will not cower in some corner and allow the enemy to frighten me or intimidate me or cause me to lose faith. The devil is a liar.

God has told me, directly and through a friend who spoke it to me in the same way God did, that this isn't about me. ("It's not about you.") This is a spiritual fight for my husband's soul. The enemy used my husband's long absences from church (by being out of state a lot) and the influence of his ungodly co-workers to lure my husband away from God and away from his family. My husband grew very weak spiritually and was "easy pickin's" for the enemy. But I will not let him go without a fight. Again, it's not my husband I'm fighting. He is not my enemy. Regardless of how he's hurt me. The devil is the enemy and I have power over him through Jesus.


I'm not saying that anyone here has suggested anything contrary to what I've written in this post. I just got a little carried away, I reckon. :)


Y'all don't have to worry about my brain or my mind or my well-being. I have faith in God and I put my confidence, my mind, my brain, my heart and everything else in His hands. Just because I cry sometimes (yesterday was the first time in months) doesn't mean I'm losing it or that I need a doctor. I'm a woman. Women cry. We're emotional creatures. It's how God made us. I don't apologize for that. It's the ones who don't cry, who don't feel hurt when done wrong, who you should worry about. It literally is not good to hold that in.


Anyway, I could go on and on I'm sure, but I will spare y'all.


~
When you say "Jesus" you've said everything.

Niki

When you say "Jesus" you've said everything.

SippinTea

QuoteI will not allow the enemy to have free reign. I will not roll over and let him do whatever he wants to my husband or my family. I will not cower in some corner and allow the enemy to frighten me or intimidate me or cause me to lose faith. The devil is a liar.

God has told me, directly and through a friend who spoke it to me in the same way God did, that this isn't about me. ("It's not about you.") This is a spiritual fight for my husband's soul. The enemy used my husband's long absences from church (by being out of state a lot) and the influence of his ungodly co-workers to lure my husband away from God and away from his family. My husband grew very weak spiritually and was "easy pickin's" for the enemy. But I will not let him go without a fight. Again, it's not my husband I'm fighting. He is not my enemy. Regardless of how he's hurt me. The devil is the enemy and I have power over him through Jesus.

:clap2: Very, very good post.

And you're welcome. ;)
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

Babs

* Just Plain Ole Barb leaves Niki a hug


proud of you!
Religion is worthless until it is able to move outside the walls.

My latest blog post.

The Cold Water Kid

#115
Quote from: Niki on June 16, 2010, 06:44:34 PM
I've been very peaceful with my husband. Not once have I called him names or told him that he was going to hell. Not once have I spoken down to him. Most women in my place would have all kinds of not-so-nice things to say. And most of it would be true. But I know that saying such things to him will not help. I don't want to push him away. I always speak kindly to him and I always tell him I love him.
Talking about someone behind their back is worse than saying it to their face. Character is revealed in what we do in the dark as well as in the light.

Quote from: Niki on June 16, 2010, 06:44:34 PM
As for him having to come back to me to get right with God, I believe that he can get right with God first. As in, repent and get refilled with the Holy Ghost. But he cannot disobey God's commands for husbands and be right with God. God commands husbands to "dwell with" their wives, love them, provide for them (which is more than financial), have sex with them, and honor them. My husband is still paying the bills, thank God. But he is neglecting me and the kids in every other way - spiritually, emotionally, physically. A man cannot turn his back on his God-commanded responsibilities and be right with God.
I'm not saying this is true in your case, but a man can lose all physical interest (to put it delicately) in his wife to the point that laying with her can seem repulsive to him (and women can feel the same about their husbands). Michael never conceived after her incident with David and Hosea had no union with his wife after buying her back from slavery. To say that a man or woman who no longer wants to live with their spouse must live with them and lay with them is a cruel standard, and it's not Biblical. Proverbs says:

Proverbs 21:19
It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

This proverb is not offered in jest; a man is better off living exposed to the elements than to a woman's unquenchable wrath. Your standard contradicts this Biblical principle.

RainbowJingles

Okay, I've been lurking in this thread for quite some time, and haven't said much, but
Niki: Please know that I'm praying for you.

ColdWaterKid: I would like to respectfully (and strongly) encourage you to try to build up Niki instead of trying to tear her down, regardless of your opinion on her stance.

Babs

Quote from: RainbowJingles on June 16, 2010, 09:26:29 PM
Okay, I've been lurking in this thread for quite some time, and haven't said much, but
Niki: Please know that I'm praying for you.

ColdWaterKid: I would like to respectfully (and strongly) encourage you to try to build up Niki instead of trying to tear her down, regardless of your opinion on her stance.


:thumbsup2:
Religion is worthless until it is able to move outside the walls.

My latest blog post.

The Cold Water Kid

Quote from: RainbowJingles on June 16, 2010, 09:26:29 PM
Okay, I've been lurking in this thread for quite some time, and haven't said much, but
Niki: Please know that I'm praying for you.

ColdWaterKid: I would like to respectfully (and strongly) encourage you to try to build up Niki instead of trying to tear her down, regardless of your opinion on her stance.

I'm not trying to tear anyone down, quite the opposite. I only wish you had the same concern for her backslid husband... you never know who reads these threads.

Melody

Amazing post Niki, girl you got it.  I know you already seek God, sometimes there is just nothing else new to say, but just keep going. ☺  This thread reminds me of Job.  If his friends would have done like so many have here and just encouraged him to keep going, seeing him for authentically submitting to God. 

A family crisis has arose w/ my mom and sister and I'm so thankful I have such encouraging words to read about maintaining integrity.  I appreciate you lady ♥


Barb, that is pretty deep.  I wouldn't encourage a woman to keep going back home if she knew she was going to get beat down, but there are so many variables also in those situations too.  There is no "1 sz fits all" for divorce and this is what people have tried to make it, to justify not wholly submitting to God.  But then these people continue to have such disfunctional lives that another marriage often only makes things worse and instead causes them to have to sacrifice something, kids over spouse, spouse over kids, or trying to juggle it all, instead of having sacrificed their own time and minds before God in the beginning. Only God knows, maybe doing all that would have made a difference in him, maybe it wouldn't have.  Guaranteed though, it would have changed you and given you a monstrous strength in Jesus, if it didn't already.  I have wondered too, how many people stop short of miracles because they thought they could, or maybe really did see that the person was not going to choose Jesus, but then, it's not the other person they are really selling short but also themselves.  It's not so much the "result" as it is the revelation through the process.  Thankfully God is full of grace and we can choose to still learn that a heavy burden is a precious treasure any day over an easier life/quick escape/ect.  

Babs

agreed mellow.

i ran into some friends the other day that live where my x lives and is telling me he is now single and going to a church and that i should go try to get back with him. i was like ???

at one point in my life i may would have given it a shot, but in the 11 years we have been divorced, he has already been married and divorced 3 other times. i just dont see me getting in all that.

and if i was honest i would admit that had he gotten in a church before he married again i might would have been willing. but to me when he married it broke what we had. i am sure plenty of people can post how i am biblicaly wrong about it all and thats fine. just like nikki, i know what i know. and i am the only one that will answer to what i have or havent done.

you will be in my prayers nikki
Religion is worthless until it is able to move outside the walls.

My latest blog post.

SippinTea

Quote from: The Cold Water Kid on June 16, 2010, 09:35:34 PM
I'm not trying to tear anyone down, quite the opposite.

Really?

Hmm...
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

The Cold Water Kid

Quote from: Just Plain Ole Barb on June 16, 2010, 09:55:18 PM
i am sure plenty of people can post how i am biblicaly wrong about it all and thats fine. just like nikki, i know what i know. and i am the only one that will answer to what i have or havent done.
I don't find fault with your decision, far from it. I don't know what to call it, but there has to be something between a man and a woman for them to live together as husband and wife in peace. Call it a spark, call it whatever... but when it's missing you know it.  :twocents:

The Cold Water Kid

#123
I could be misinterpreting the general sentiment, and I'm not suggesting this applies to anyone here, but there seems to be an assumption that a man can just " deal with it" and somehow "make the best" of a situation where he's forced to live with a woman he doesn't love. Why would anyone think that? When Jacob was roped into marrying Leah, he didn't force himself to love her... and he didn't live with her. But God didn't condemn him for it. While the Lord had pity on Leah and gave her many children, He did not find Jacob guilty of fault in this matter, or if He did the Bible makes no mention of it. Why would we believe it is different today? Jacob lived before the Law, and our faith is compared to that of Abraham. I could be wrong, but it seems to me there are certain areas of our life that the Lord leaves to us; He doesn't require us to turn one way or another. Personally, I've often thought He enjoys seeing what we'll choose... as a parent enjoys watching the lives of their children unfold.

Niki

#124
It's not Biblical that a husband and wife must have sex with each other?

I Corinthians 7:3-5 says in the New Living Translation: "The husband should fulfill his wife's sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband's needs. The wife gives authority over her body to her husband and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife. Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won't be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control."


It's not Biblical that a husband must love his wife and a wife her husband?

Ephesians 5:25
"Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it."

Husbands are to love their wives the way Jesus loves us. Unconditionally (what can separate us from the love of God?) and without end.

Matthew Henry has this to say:

"The duty of husbands is to love their wives. The love of Christ to the church is an example, which is sincere, pure, and constant, notwithstanding her failures. ... The words of Adam, mentioned by the apostle, are spoken literally of marriage; but they have also a hidden sense in them, relating to the union between Christ and his church. It was a kind of type, as having resemblance. There will be failures and defects on both sides, in the present state of human nature, yet this does not alter the relation. All the duties of marriage are included in unity and love."

Titus 2:4
"That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their own husbands, to love their children,"

There are no conditions added to that scripture or to the scripture that commands husbands to love their wives.


Love is commanded by God's Word. If a husband does not love his wife, he is disobeying God.


My husband says he still loves me. He also tells me I'm beautiful and sexy. Attraction is not the issue. Honestly, I don't know what the issue is for him. I do know though that him being a backslider, living a life of disobedience to God, is at the root of it.


If a man is having a hard time loving his wife or being the husband God commands him to be, he must go to God in prayer. He must ask God to help him be the husband he's supposed to be. Running away, turning your back on your wife, and especially turning your back on God, is never the answer. It's never okay or acceptable.

Have you never struggled with something and had to go to God in prayer about it? Or do you just accept that that's just how things are and remain the same?


I haven't said anything bad about my husband. I haven't torn him down or called him names. My intention has always been to have people pray for him. (And me.) I have nothing to be ashamed of.

QuoteProverbs 21:19
It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

This does not apply to me. I've been peaceful, loving, kind and affectionate with my husband. The last time I saw him, I put my arms around him. I did not ignore him. I did not yell at him. I did not lecture him. I did not call him names or make accusations. I showed him love and spoke kindly to him.

And in case you're making more assumptions, I was this way with him before he left. I did not drive him away. As God has told me more than once, "It's not about you." His issue is just that. An issue with himself.


As I think I've said before, I've sought out God's will through prayer and in His Word. I know what He commands of me and expects of me as a woman and as a wife. And I'm doing my best, with God's help and guidance, to be what God wants me to be.

I'm not just sitting here looking at my husband's sin and ignoring whatever growth I may need within myself. I'm an introvert. Self-examination, and even self-criticism, comes naturally to me. I have looked deep into myself and asked God to remove from me anything He isn't pleased with. I have asked Him to make me who He wants me to be. He keeps my anger in check and I am able not to unleash it on my husband. lol Most women would say he deserves to be yelled at and called every name in the book. But I'm not that way. I never have been. I always give people the benefit of the doubt. I don't just believe in second chances, I believe in many chances. I don't quit on people. I remain loyal no matter what.

I'm a naturally peaceful person. There is no anger or contention for my husband to deal with from me. I've always been the type who wants things to be mended as soon as possible. I don't do cold shoulders or silent treatments. I don't do yelling or holding grudges. I don't "keep score".


I just want my family back together again. I want the closeness we've always had, right up until my husband left, back again. I want and need his companionship and his affection. I deserve it and have every right to it, according to God. His Word says so and anything said contrary to that is not truth.


Anyway, the point of this thread was to get prayer for my husband and myself and our family. I did not start this thread to be insulted or accused of things that are not true. You're (CWK) not helping things at all. You're not lifting up, you're tearing down.

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When you say "Jesus" you've said everything.