Those Independent Women!

[Sister_Mom]

Now, Sister Mom, what I want to know is just how you know that many of the men keep an extra shirt in their office?   

Actually, they usually have an extra polo shirt and slacks hanging on the back of the door to their office. Now, git yer mind outta the gutter. 

[Sister_Mom]

In this day and time alot of men have the idea they'd be seen as a male chauvinist if they offered to help. I wouldn't be surprised to hear a man (especially one in a supervisory position) could lose his job for such a blatant act of gender discrimination. It's too bad none of them offered to help, by the time you got through sueing the bank you might have gotten a new car and a promotion out of the deal. 

Funny thing is, several people suggest I ask my boss and said he'd more than likely do it. I just couldn't picture my boss out changing my tire, something just didn't seem right with that picture at all.


I finally got in contact with the man in charge of maintenance. When we went out to look at the tire, it was only a little low  . He has a shop here with an air compressor and drove it there and refilled it with air and we think it will hold until I can go to lunch and get it down the road to a tire store. 

[Tricia Lea]

Now, Sister Mom, what I want to know is just how you know that many of the men keep an extra shirt in their office?   

Actually, they usually have an extra polo shirt and slacks hanging on the back of the door to their office. Now, git yer mind outta the gutter. 

[wire2john]

I don't remember the circumstances, but I can remember wanting to help a woman in a similar situation and then fearing it might be seen as inappropriate. If a woman asks for help it's ok, but just to offer because I'm a man and she's a woman has become taboo, unless of course she's 70 years old, we're talking about young able-bodied women.

[Sister_Mom]

I don't remember the circumstances, but I can remember wanting to help a woman in a similar situation and then fearing it might be seen as inappropriate. If a woman asks for help it's ok, but just to offer because I'm a man and she's a woman has become taboo, unless of course she's 70 years old, we're talking about young able-bodied women.

You sure about that?! 

[MelodyB]

Did you get it fixed?

[Sister_Mom]

Did you get it fixed?

I finally got in contact with the man in charge of maintenance. When we went out to look at the tire, it was only a little low  . He has a shop here with an air compressor and drove it there and refilled it with air and we think it will hold until I can go to lunch and get it down the road to a tire store. 

Made it to the tire store, now I have all 4 new tires. It was way past due. :grin:

[MelodyB]

LOL

Looks like the car is ready for our next road trip....when do we leave?

BTW where did you go? I like Pepboys myself.

[Sister_Mom]

LOL

Looks like the car is ready for our next road trip....when do we leave?

BTW where did you go? I like Pepboys myself.

You going somewhere?

[MelodyB]

LOL

Looks like the car is ready for our next road trip....when do we leave?

BTW where did you go? I like Pepboys myself.

You going somewhere?

HUH? Im not sure I get what you mean. Im kinda slow today.

[Sister_Mom]

You said "our" road trip, and I don't know of one, so I figured "you" are going somewhere.

[MelodyB]

oh....ding...

Yeah I might go somewhere...can I use your car?

[Backseat Radio]

My personal preference has always been to do things for myself as much as I can.  Some of my independent spirit got curbed when I broke my back.  Certain things now my back forces me to ask for help since I can't do heavy lifting.

[SippinTea]

Had something rather odd happen the other day...

I was approaching a door to a store, at the same time a man was coming up from the opposite direction...and seeing that we were both going to reach the door at about the same moment I slowed my walking just a tad to give him a chance to get there first. He suddenly stops (about 3 feet from the door), takes a step BACKWARDS, and waves his hand for me to go first.     So...I opened the door and stepped through. But then I couldn't very well let it slam in his face, so I ended up trying to hold the door open behind me until he grabbed it.  *shakes head*

Somebody help me out here...what in the world was he thinking?    

[Tricia Lea]

Somebody help me out here...what in the world was he thinking?    

or was he thinking should be the queston

lol

[Newsman]

Consider if you will two options;

1) He was so smitten by the visage of your beauty he did not know what to do

2) He has become accustomed to women not wanting the door held open, so wanted you to go first, but not at the risk of causing a scene.

Other possibilities my sleep-deprived brain knoweth not.


John 

[SippinTea]

   Okay, I'm liking option one!

No, seriously, I'm not being rude or sarcastic...I really want to know what he might have been thinking. Was he trying to be a gentleman by letting me go first? Was he afraid of getting yelled at if he held the door open? Did he have back problems and was hoping I'd hold the door for him? LOL

*shrug* It doesn't really matter...just seemed a bit odd to me.

[Sister_Mom]

Consider if you will two options;

1) He was so smitten by the visage of your beauty he did not know what to do

2) He has become accustomed to women not wanting the door held open, so wanted you to go first, but not at the risk of causing a scene.

Other possibilities my sleep-deprived brain knoweth not.


John 

3) He's not a gentleman 

[TRAV]

Independent women are awesome....unless they brag about it.

[Raecheal]

Consider if you will two options;

1) He was so smitten by the visage of your beauty he did not know what to do

2) He has become accustomed to women not wanting the door held open, so wanted you to go first, but not at the risk of causing a scene.

Other possibilities my sleep-deprived brain knoweth not.


John 

3) He's not a gentleman 

I'd think it was #2 or I'd just assume he didn't think of it because typically I don't unless the door is held for me and I'm pleasantly surprised. But it happens so much (just holding the door behind me) that I've never thought about it.

[Ant]

One of the girls I travelled with through Cambodia and Vietnam was incredibly independent. I generally do my best to be a gentleman, but sometimes my offers are refused. For instance, when we went to Halong Bay, most of us only took a day pack, since we were only staying overnight. This particular girl wasn't sure if she wanted to stay longer though, so she took her entire back pack.

We arrived at the island we were staying on, and were faced with a couple of kilometers walk to our hotel, over a fairly steep headland. Seeing this pint-sized girl struggling with her large backpack, while I was carrying only a small daypack, kicked all my gentleman training into overdrive.

'Let me help you with some of that,' says I. Her reply flummoxed me:

'Why would you want to do that?'

In the end, I eventually was able to assist her by lagging behind the rest of the group with her, and carrying her water bottle, while she staggered up the hill carrying her back pack. My biggest fear was that my sister would find out, as I'm sure she would never let me hear the end of it! Wasn't quite the help I anticipated, but you do what you can. No wonder that chivalry today is dead - the stubbornly independent ladies were the ones who killed it!

[SippinTea]

'Let me help you with some of that,' says I. Her reply flummoxed me:
'Why would you want to do that?'

No wonder that chivalry today is dead - the stubbornly independent ladies were the ones who killed it!

  Sad, but true, I'm afraid.

[Raecheal]

I'm independent but I don't have a problem letting someone else do the work (ie. carry something heavy). *grin* She must have been out of her mind (I was going to say stubborn and a wee bit stupid *cough* but that's mean) to carry her bag when someone else had offered. Dad raised independent AND intelligent women.. lol - we know when to give up.

[Amelia Bedelia]

independent AND intelligent women.. lol - we know when to give up.

know when to give up
and know when to not only give up but
smile real big
turn your head sideways
bat your eyelashes
and say "thank you sooo much.... *sigh*  it must be nice to be so strong..."   

and smile bigger but refrain from laughing when they blush 

She must have been out of her mind (I was going to say stubborn and a wee bit stupid *cough* but that's mean)

hmm well I was going to agree if you were going to say it

[Newsman]

Here's something I recall being brought up way back in discussions of holding doors open for women: the issue of a woman being uncomfortable when a man holds the door open for her while standing in it, thus she may have to brush up against him to get through the door being held open.

What I do when I see a situation like this (it doesn't always work out that your on the right side of a one-way door to open it in the traditional manner, I make a quick spot decision to either

1) Use the arm only while keeping the rest of the body as far away from the door as possible ( even in my advanced age, I still have a fair amount of strength,) so that I am not forcing her to brush against me to get through..or

2) Go ahead and walk through first, and hold it open from the other side.


John