Those Independent Women!

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LOL@ RandyWayne!!!

Your poor wife!! 

sharon

[RandyWayne]

<------ Me watching it happen

[RainbowJingles]

men are more likely to offer assistance to a woman that presents herself as a "lady".

I thought I looked kinda purdy yesterday.  *sniff*  You think I didn't present myself as a lady?  I KNOW I didn't present myself as a man.

I'll have to figure out what to do differently next time.  lol

[Sister_Mom]

men are more likely to offer assistance to a woman that presents herself as a "lady".

I thought I looked kinda purdy yesterday.  *sniff*  You think I didn't present myself as a lady?  I KNOW I didn't present myself as a man.

I'll have to figure out what to do differently next time.  lol

  Was it maybe something in between? 

Before I came into this church and started dressing the way I do now (like the way I slid around that?  :grin: ) I probably could have lost count every week on how many times doors closed in my face when walking through behind a man. Now, I can't remember the last time that happened. 

[MelodyB]

Thats cause now you just look so Godly and cute, they have to hold it for you!

And plus, your older now....

*Runs and hides*

[Envelope]

Tell ya what will make ya cry!

Of course I am ALWAYS in a dress, so it's pretty apparent I am a lady..........but a few months ago, my hubby and I went to the post office and I ran in while he stayed in the car with the girls.  There are about 7 concrete steps going up to the door of the post office here (the non handicapped entrance).  Anyway, I was about to the top step when  a frail looking elderly man came limping up the steps.....I was going to get the door for HIM when he lunged in front of me....actually tripping on the top step...........to Open the door for ME!!!  I profusely thanked him!!!  I was thinking WOW, what a gentleman!!

I am sure some women (women's libbers) would have given the poor guy a tongue lashing!!

I was just awestruck that this poor elderly man, would do such a kind thing for me!!

sharon

[terp]

In lieu of women and independence, this last post made me think...  So, out of mere curiosity, what do you all consider a "women's libber?"

[newkris]

a woman's libber, in my opinion, is a woman who thinks she has to be equal to a man or better than a man in a man's job or a man's role. 

i have seen many women lawyers try to compete with men and get frustrated because men don't have to deal with "family" issues like women do.  well . .  no kidding!  it's not the way God made us.  the women who realize that they can be intelligent and capable without having to compete with men are those who are happiest and who earn the most respect from their male peers.  truly.

[LarryTheCucumber]

a woman's libber, in my opinion, is a woman who thinks she has to be equal to a man or better than a man in a man's job or a man's role. 

i have seen many women lawyers try to compete with men and get frustrated because men don't have to deal with "family" issues like women do.  well . .  no kidding!  it's not the way God made us.  the women who realize that they can be intelligent and capable without having to compete with men are those who are happiest and who earn the most respect from their male peers.  truly.

very true.

the people who gain the most respect are those who excel at something--not those who force themselves into a situation to prove a point.

[Newsman]

I like this that Sister Sharon posted: the Olde ways die hard.

As for Lady Elona's situation...the natural caution may have been heightened by where she lives..the San Francisco area..bastion of liberals wackos and bad appellate court decisions.

John 

Tell ya what will make ya cry!

Of course I am ALWAYS in a dress, so it's pretty apparent I am a lady..........but a few months ago, my hubby and I went to the post office and I ran in while he stayed in the car with the girls.  There are about 7 concrete steps going up to the door of the post office here (the non handicapped entrance).  Anyway, I was about to the top step when  a frail looking elderly man came limping up the steps.....I was going to get the door for HIM when he lunged in front of me....actually tripping on the top step...........to Open the door for ME!!!  I profusely thanked him!!!  I was thinking WOW, what a gentleman!!

I am sure some women (women's libbers) would have given the poor guy a tongue lashing!!

I was just awestruck that this poor elderly man, would do such a kind thing for me!!

sharon

[TRAV]

A "Womans Lipper" is a woman who talks too much.

The "Lipper Dipper" and the "Big Lipper" are a group of stars that look like two women talking.

[InChristGirl]

 

[newkris]

good thing you don't teach science or sociology, trav.  it appears you have taken the concepts of free flowing watercolors and mixing and matching acrylics and have applied it to sociology and science, which is an odd mix by itself. 

but it makes a very nice word picture.   

[RainbowJingles]

Sharon: Those experiences are quite humbling, aren't they?  It really *does* make me want to cry.

As for Lady Elona's situation...the natural caution may have been heightened by where she lives..the San Francisco area..bastion of liberals wackos and bad appellate court decisions.

John 

John: the interesting thing is that the conservatives and the old fashioned people out here seem to be very old-fashioned indeed, perhaps in response to the bastion of liberalism surrounding them.  When I respond to someone's question, "how are you today?" with my usual "I am blessed," I get either a cold look or a frozen smile or a "WOW!  That is AWESOME to hear someone out here talk like that.  I really appreciate that..."  etc etc etc.  It's really interesting to respond like that out here, as opposed to the deep south (Mississippi), where everyone "grew up Christian".  Of course, in the city, at certain times of the year, it's the kiss of death to respond like that, but I stay pretty much consistent with my response.  :-)  The point is that, not everyone out here is as steeped in liberalism as it's made out to be.  Problem is that the press and the government is all leaning that way, apparently, so it ends up making everyone out here look bad.

Anyway...  what was my point?  lol

Basically, there are all different kinds of people out here.  Yeah.  Something like that.
I think it's time for me to get in bed.  lol

[wire2john]

What is the difference between a liberal and conservative believer?

[RainbowJingles]

wire2john:
A believer is a believer.  Liberal and conservative are totally relative terms that I personally try not to use very "liberally" in reference to fellow believers.  The Bible is the Bible.  You either believe it and obey it or you don't.  lol

In my post, I wasn't referring to believers in particular.  I was more referring to the political and social liberalism and conservatism.
My main point was really that

the more wackos that you have in an area, the more it makes the people who want to be good feel the urge to be EXTREMELY good.  :-)

[RandyWayne]

Conservative and liberal labels have become pretty far removed from the words original meanings. 
I am very "liberal" myself in that I like to do a lot to excess and not hold back as well as being able to at least understand the most extreme
viewpoints of an issue.  Yet, politically, economically, and for the most part, religiously, I am by most measures, "an extreme Right-wing fanatic".
"Conservative" on the other hand is a very good description of people around my neck of the woods.  Old farmers set in their ways, disliking ANY change, church going, yet wishing they could vote for a democrat because they "agree with everything the party stands for except abortion and gay marriages!".  In other words, soak the rich (who is anyone who makes a nickel more than THEM) to give to the poor, and virtually no understanding of supply-side economics.

I tend to use the term "left wing" and socialist to describe liberals.  Haven't come up with an equally good term for conservatives yet.

[apsurf]

conservatives and liberials... I like to think that they are muppets being on two hands controlled by one brain...not a very smart brain either!

[Sister_Mom]

On my way to work this morning, one of my tires starts making a noise... thunk...thunk....thunk....
I was thinking, flat tire although it didn't feel like a flat. I stop, get out, check all the tires, feel around them, listen for air... nothing.
Back in the car, drive down the road and the noise changes, sounds like tap shoes, then shortly goes back to the thunk...thunk...thunk.
I stop again, feel around the tires (my hands are black by now), listen... nothing.
I get to work and park in customer parking because I have a feeling I'm going to need a tire changed before lunch. I get out of the car, and hear... hisssssssssssss.  Now the tire talks, coulda told me that before.

I work at a bank corporate center, we have somewhere around 120-150 employees. I've got the word out that I need a tire changed. I know the men here are dressed up and don't want to get dirty, but I know many that keep an extra shirt in their office. The only volunteer so far... a woman.   

Should I be surprised?

[Chseeads]

Now, Sister Mom, what I want to know is just how you know that many of the men keep an extra shirt in their office?   

[RainbowJingles]

WOW, SisMom!  Have you stopped to have your moments of thankfulness that you made it all the way to work without your tire going flat?!?!?!?!
That's awesome!

[wire2john]

In this day and time alot of men have the idea they'd be seen as a male chauvinist if they offered to help. I wouldn't be surprised to hear a man (especially one in a supervisory position) could lose his job for such a blatant act of gender discrimination. It's too bad none of them offered to help, by the time you got through sueing the bank you might have gotten a new car and a promotion out of the deal. 

[SippinTea]

I can't think anyone would get fired for being kind to a friend or co-worker. Kindness never goes out of style...whether it's man or lady.

[Sister_Mom]

WOW, SisMom!  Have you stopped to have your moments of thankfulness that you made it all the way to work without your tire going flat?!?!?!?!
That's awesome!

You better believe it!! 

[Sister_Mom]

I can't think anyone would get fired for being kind to a friend or co-worker. Kindness never goes out of style...whether it's man or lady.

Unfortunately, there are some women out there giving us a bad rep, and have sued for much less.