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Started by SippinTea, February 05, 2007, 06:36:00 AM

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I also forgot to add that you could check as to your local laws, and see if you can carry a can of 'mace'. If so, and the type is allowed, I recommend "OC Pepper Spray."


John

wire2john

Mace is no longer legal because it's flamible. Pepper spray will stop most perps, but someone on drugs it's not enough.

SippinTea

A very big thank you to everyone who has responded! Hopefully, nothing will come of all this and I won't be forced to use all these great ideas. But if it comes to an out and out physical confrontation I'll be a little better prepared by the brainstormming with all you wonderful folks.

Judging from the comments posted thus far, my advantage would come with A) what I would currently have in my hand at the moment of confrontation, and B) how quick I am on my feet. I'm not a very big person, but I am pretty fast on my feet--(don't know about a foot race). I also own mace, and plan to have it with me at all hours during the next few weeks, as well as my cell. The idea listed by myhaloisintheshop about keeping my keys in hand when walking to my car is one I already currently use, and although I wouldn't relish the thought of using keys on anyone's face, I would if I had to.  :-\

Never having had quite this situation before, I've been feeling rather unprepared. But with the ideas from all of you, at least I'd have a fighting chance.

Thanks, everyone!

:beret:
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

wire2john

If you're prayed up and living right, your angels have got your back. Fear not.

SippinTea

I'd rather put my trust in God than in angels, but I still plan to be as prepared as I can.

:beret:
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

wire2john


LarryTheCucumber

Quote from: Chseeads on February 05, 2007, 07:44:40 PM
Brothers don't need proof to beat somebody up.   :grin:
ya got that right!!!!!!!!


sippintea--you never said anything about the latest development to me, and I just noticed this thread today   :nono:

all the suggestions so far have been great, but I'd still tell you what I've been telling you for the last 2 years--GET A 9 MILLIMETER!!!!!!

seriously, a concealed weapons permit gives you not only the right to carry a weapon for self defense, but requires you to take the necessary training in self defense and situation diffusing that would prove helpful in a tense situation.

personal alarms can also be a good idea.   Talk to Joel L also--I know he's done self defense classes for singles gals before--I know he'd be more than happy to help you out.

also try Lee--don't forget, he's not only a blackbelt in Do Shin Kwo, he also works in the corrections facility--if anyone could help you out, it'd be him.

SippinTea

Lee? mmmm....maybe. He'd be more likely to put me in the hospital unintentionally.   :laughhard:  He's kind of a bull in a china shop.  :)

Already thought of Joel L, but he's pretty busy. I dunno....I might call him. Or email. We'll see.... I'd definitely have more likelyhood of surviving training.  ;)

:beret:
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

not my will but thine

The 9mm is NOT the answer to your problems.  Especially if you don't have experience in handling and use of the weapon.  Its very likely that the gun you purchase and carry to use for self-defense can be taken away and used against you.  Sure there is some training or education involved with obtaining a handgun carry permit which probably varies in length and subject matter from state to state.  But it is not adequate to evolve you into a fearless "gung-ho" defensive tactics master.  Those classes are all about money and anyone who pays the fees can pass and qualify to get their Handgun carry permit.  They do not teach defensive tactics or Aggression Defense techniques.  At least none that I am aware of

Envelope

Some one said...........Not to hit someone in the neck with a stun gun...........and that it would cause paralysis..........

My question.................

WHO Cares??  If I'm being attacked.............I wouldn't take the time to "be careful" not to stun someone in the neck............

As for carrying concealed?  I say Go for it............with proper training................

Or just do like I did.............Marry a COP!!  :hypocrite:

sharon

SippinTea

Notmywill--I am a pretty good shot  :)  but having my own weapon used against me is a valid concern.

Sharon--Stun gun-wise...I wouldn't bother being 'careful' about where I hit this guy, either.  ;)  Cop-wise...hmmmm...there was good-looking cop that came in the store asking for Jason a few days ago. Should I have asked for his phone number?  :laughhard:      er...nevermind.

:beret:
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

LarryTheCucumber

Quote from: not my will but thine on February 06, 2007, 09:02:50 AM
But it is not adequate to evolve you into a fearless "gung-ho" defensive tactics master.
not what I was implying.

:)

Scott

Quote from: SippinTea on February 05, 2007, 06:36:00 AM
Help us out, men. (And any women that want to share,too.)  :) What are some ways that single women unintentionally put themselves in harms' way? And what are some practical steps we can take to not be an easy target?

We've read the books (most of which aren't all that helpful for real-life scenarios), but we need some advice for everyday safety. Assume we're talking about modestly-dressed pentecostal women, not some asking-for-trouble gal.

:beret:

Buy a dog if it is at all possible. A nice big dog.

Tazer has a nice civilian model tazer that works pretty slick.

Walk to the car in a buddy system with other folks

As someone said Pepper Spray (only if it is not windy and rainy)

A nice .38 Ladies Model snub is FANTASTIC - only if you are willing to shoot to kill.....

Yell FIRE! Never help. For some reason people tend to ingnore or not get involved when they hear HELP, but they will when the hear fire. There is something about 3 trucks full of firemen carrying AXes that will scare off would be rapists.

Wear Sneakers out on the street  - forget the heels, you run better in sneakers.

If you are followed, drive to the police station or a fire station
(I had a creep follow me right in to the police station one time, screaming that he was going to kill me. He then tried to fight it out with the police. The last I saw of him he was laid out on the concrete by a cop with a large nightstick.)

Be aware at all times.






QuotePosted by: wire2john 
Insert Quote
If you're prayed up and living right, your angels have got your back. Fear not.

Tell that to Paul, Peter, Steven, Matthew, Mark, etc...

It rains on the just and the un just... good people have bad things that happen to them.

"I find your lack of faith disturbing." (Vader)

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf (Orwell and Churchhill)


The Never Ending Battle

NessasMama

Quote from: Scott on February 08, 2007, 12:04:06 AM
If you are followed, drive to the police station or a fire station
(I had a creep follow me right in to the police station one time, screaming that he was going to kill me. He then tried to fight it out with the police. The last I saw of him he was laid out on the concrete by a cop with a large nightstick.)

I never thought of doing that.
I was born weird -- this terrible compulsion to behave normally is the result of childhood trauma.

Envelope

****Stun gun news*****

      I asked my husband (the great Police chief) and he said that it does NOOOOO permanent damage if someone is stunned in the neck or back.  He said that myth is an Urban Legand!!

     Anyway, Just wanted to let you know.......I did ask!! 

sharon

LarryTheCucumber

any of you see that video that surfaced a while back of a cop tasering himself by mistake when trying to arrest a suspect?
:laughhard:

newkris

no, but i saw the one of the cop that shot himself during a firearms safety class . . . seems he forgot he had a bullet after all.



hey surf!  LOVE your sign line about the grandmother.  that's the kind of thing that mavrik will say some day.   :laughhard:
\\\\\\\"i want to say more than words when i write\\\\\\\" - kent d. curry
me, too.


myspace.com\\\\\\\\krisknowshim
there are times in the whirlwind of my fragile life that i have hidden under your words, your voice.

LarryTheCucumber


nicolejoy

Did anyone see the video of the cops tazering a student in UCLA library about 5 times all in a row, and then they were like "Stand up now - if you don't stand up, we'll tazer you again!!" - duh, of course he couldn't stand up - he'd just been tazered a billion times!!!

alohilani

I meant to buy a Taser awhile back, but the problem dissipated and I never did. I plan to get around to purchasing a handgun, though - a good idea for a gal livin' in the city alone! ;) In the meantime, I carry mace and rely on Jesus and my fierce left hook.

SippinTea

Quote from: Scott on February 08, 2007, 12:04:06 AM
Quote from: SippinTea on February 05, 2007, 06:36:00 AM
Help us out, men. (And any women that want to share,too.)  :) What are some ways that single women unintentionally put themselves in harms' way? And what are some practical steps we can take to not be an easy target?

We've read the books (most of which aren't all that helpful for real-life scenarios), but we need some advice for everyday safety. Assume we're talking about modestly-dressed pentecostal women, not some asking-for-trouble gal.

:beret:

Buy a dog if it is at all possible. A nice big dog.

Tazer has a nice civilian model tazer that works pretty slick.

Walk to the car in a buddy system with other folks

As someone said Pepper Spray (only if it is not windy and rainy)

A nice .38 Ladies Model snub is FANTASTIC - only if you are willing to shoot to kill.....

Yell FIRE! Never help. For some reason people tend to ingnore or not get involved when they hear HELP, but they will when the hear fire. There is something about 3 trucks full of firemen carrying AXes that will scare off would be rapists.

Wear Sneakers out on the street  - forget the heels, you run better in sneakers.

If you are followed, drive to the police station or a fire station
(I had a creep follow me right in to the police station one time, screaming that he was going to kill me. He then tried to fight it out with the police. The last I saw of him he was laid out on the concrete by a cop with a large nightstick.)

Be aware at all times.

Thank you, Scott!  :hi:

Never thought about pepper spray in wind and rain. Very good point!

And the thing about yelling FIRE! versus HELP!....that's a great thing to know.

Thanks!

:beret:
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

apsurf

Why do I suddenly get this picture of hair spray can next to the pepper spray can.....4 am....very drowsy lady starts to finish her hair for the morning, and hits the wrong button.... :laughhard:

Humor aside, seems to be some good suggestions.

Newsman

Wow! What a woman!  :thumbsup2:


John  :waving:

Quote from: alohilani on February 08, 2007, 06:32:25 AM
In the meantime, I carry mace and rely on Jesus and my fierce left hook.

SippinTea

Quote from: nwlife on February 08, 2007, 07:02:04 AM
Why do I suddenly get this picture of hair spray can next to the pepper spray can.....4 am....very drowsy lady starts to finish her hair for the morning, and hits the wrong button.... :laughhard:

Humor aside, seems to be some good suggestions.

Very funny!  :biglaugh: But there's one problem....I don't use hair spray, so I doubt I'll make that mistake.  :)

:beret:
"Going somewhere means leaving somewhere. Choosing something means choosing against other things. Gaining something means losing something else. And between the old and new--the 'was' and the 'not yet'--there exists only one thing: a very frightening journey called faith."
--taken from the book Coming Up For Air

Raecheal

I don't carry anything - I haven't any clue as to where I'd get mace. ;)