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Title: Question for Singles
Post by: taco_harvell on April 18, 2010, 01:15:57 AM
Are you happy being single? Do you feel you could remain single the rest of your life and be perfectly happy?



Do you feel only true happiness will come when you find someone to share your life with? Is marriage the only way you see yourself being content?




Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: TheGirl on April 18, 2010, 04:16:20 AM
No. No. Only if i'm with the person God intends me to be with. And no. :)
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Sis on April 18, 2010, 04:49:11 AM
You're young, Taco. When the pain dies down, you might find someone again. Lord willin'. You may not have enough time. He may come before you know it. We have no idea. But if he tarrys, I imagine you just might find someone else. Someone Renae will approve of.  (Sorry if I misspelled her name, but I know four different gals with that name, and they all spell it differently!)
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: upcchris on April 18, 2010, 04:57:57 AM
Hmmm. There was a time when I would've answered 'yes' to the top two questions, without hesitation...and probably before you finished speaking....but I'm at a point in my life now where I think I need to get my act together. If God means for me to stay single...I'm fine with that, but I have a feeling I....for lack of a better word... *should* get married at some point, it's not the only way I see myself being content and it's not the only way to find true happiness, I just feel it will be a part of my life eventually.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 18, 2010, 05:50:31 AM
:lurk:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: taco_harvell on April 18, 2010, 05:51:50 AM
Quote from: Sis on April 18, 2010, 04:49:11 AM
You're young, Taco. When the pain dies down, you might find someone again. Lord willin'. You may not have enough time. He may come before you know it. We have no idea. But if he tarrys, I imagine you just might find someone else. Someone Renae will approve of.  (Sorry if I misspelled her name, but I know four different gals with that name, and they all spell it differently!)

This actually was inspired by an article I read tonight. I actually haven't really considered it much. This article was about how this guy felt society treated him for "choosing" to be single. Just hit my as a very interesting question.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Sis on April 18, 2010, 06:17:49 AM
Well, if a bunch of church ladies start introducing you to women, you can have loads of company without commitment, anyway!  :hypocrite:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: taco_harvell on April 19, 2010, 02:51:33 AM
Quote from: Sis on April 18, 2010, 06:17:49 AM
Well, if a bunch of church ladies start introducing you to women, you can have loads of company without commitment, anyway!  :hypocrite:


That will never happen.......lol
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: 1legRooster on April 19, 2010, 11:55:27 AM
Am I happy being single.... well I am happy about many aspects of my life, not so much about that one.  LOL

Could I be perfectly happy if I were to remain single for my whole life.... I could be happy, but I would feel a part of my life was missing, just like I do now.

I would rather be single then unhappily married, and I do not think that marriage is the only way to true happiness. 

I have learned in whatsoever state that I am in, to be content.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Heather on April 19, 2010, 03:49:01 PM
all the answers to these questions vary day to day.

for the most part i am happy being single. mostly because i was so unhappy being single that i have the craziest schedule to keep me from being home moping. lol. it would be a tad crazy to try to fit time for a significant other in there.

as far as to be content being single for the rest of my life....i honestly can't answer that. at times i like to think God has someone out there for me, but at other times I honestly think I blew my one shot at 'the one' with my now ex-husband.

i guess time and alot of prayer will tell.....
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 19, 2010, 07:43:47 PM
Hmmm...

Am I happy being single?
I truly think that I am.  There are days that I feel that I need company, but I have learned to seek out that company in healthy ways.  Not being single doesn't mean you'll always have good days, or never be lonely, so I try to remind myself of that.  There are so many things that I can do as a single that I might not be quite as free to do as a married person, such as being available (with a flexible schedule) to spend time at the church, or babysitting late at night without worrying anyone, or just being random and silly.

Do I feel I could remain single the rest of my life and be perfectly happy?
Day by day, my happiness is a decision.  If I wake up single, I will choose to be happy.  If I wake up married...  :o  I mean, if someday I am married, then I will still need to choose happiness each day.

Do I feel true happiness will only come when I find someone to share my life with?
Nope.  True happiness comes from God, and as such, I can be happy whether I'm married or single.

Is marriage the only way I see myself being content?
No.
While I don't feel like God has said that I will be single forever, I don't feel that I will mope for the rest of my life if I am never married.
Contentment comes in all shapes and sizes and all circumstances if we allow it to.  I pray that I will always allow that contentment in my life.

Do I have moments where I really WISH I could be married?
Yup.
Do I obsess over it?
I don't think I do very often.
Do I give it to God?
Yup.
Do I have people trying to matchmake for me?
Yup.
Do I let 'em?
Yup.  lol
Do I have people praying that I will find a husband someday?
Yup.
Do I let 'em?
Yup.  As a matter of fact, I encourage such behavior.  lol  Keeps them from getting on MY case.  If they're telling GOD that I need a husband, they don't tend to tell ME about it quite as much.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: taco_harvell on April 20, 2010, 01:19:27 AM
Been thinking about this the last couple of days. These questions are hard for me to answer. I've only been "single" for seven months today to be exact. I can honestly say I enjoyed being married. It's nice knowing there is always someone there no matter what to share your life with. I don't honestly know how I feel about being single. I surely don't know if I could be happy being single for the rest of my life. I still wrestle with facing the fact that I am a single guy again.

Right now am I happy? Most of the time I try to be. But that usually has very little to do with my relationship status it's more about my state of mind. I think with the right state of mind anyone can be happy no matter if they are single or married. I know way to many married people who haven't been happy since the honeymoon ended to say marriage is the only way to be happy.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 22, 2010, 04:41:57 AM
Quote from: taco_harvell on April 18, 2010, 01:15:57 AM
Are you happy being single? Do you feel you could remain single the rest of your life and be perfectly happy?



Do you feel only true happiness will come when you find someone to share your life with? Is marriage the only way you see yourself being content?





We can't count on always being "happy", married or not.

1 Peter 4:19 (King James Version)

19Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Newsman on April 22, 2010, 09:19:29 AM
True, but the contect of that passage deals with suffering as a Christian, and in one's belief, not regarding the issue fo whether one is single or married.

1 Peter 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed ; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved , where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear ? 19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. (KJV)



John
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on April 22, 2010, 12:41:10 PM
Thanks for clarifying that John...  :grin:

Was going to type something out, but you beat me to it, cause I fell asleep... lol...

Putting scripture in context is something that is always important! 
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 23, 2010, 02:44:27 AM
Perhaps...
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: SippinTea on April 23, 2010, 04:58:35 AM
Okay, sooo... by following your logic, you should go find the woman who makes you more miserable than you've ever been in your life... and then marry her!! Woohoo!!

(That was sarcasm, just in case you couldn't tell.) :lol:

Seriously, though...
You ARE taking that way out of context of the surrounding Scripture... and also out of the context of this thread.

I agree it is not God's goal to make us happy.

But neither is it His goal to make us UN-happy.

His goal is to make us more like Himself. More righteous. More pure. More holy.

But this thread isn't about suffering or goals or righteousness. And now we've pinkwinked yet another thread...  :updown:

:beret:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on April 23, 2010, 05:05:05 AM
Quote from: SippinTea on April 23, 2010, 04:58:35 AM
Okay, sooo... by following your logic, you should go find the woman who makes you more miserable than you've ever been in your life... and then marry her!! Woohoo!!
That sounds blissful... where do I sign up...  :biglaugh:

(That was sarcasm, just in case you couldn't tell.) :lol:
ahhh... Ruby sarcasm... Yoop sits in awe...

Seriously, though...
You ARE taking that way out of context of the surrounding Scripture... and also out of the context of this thread.
hmmm... seems your not the first to mention this...  :smirk2:

I agree it is not God's goal to make us happy.

But neither is it His goal to make us UN-happy.

His goal is to make us more like Himself. More righteous. More pure. More holy.

But this thread isn't about suffering or goals or righteousness. And now we've pinkwinked yet another thread...  :updown:
Hmmm... thanks for clarifying... I was confused about the focus of this one... lol...

:beret:
:great:  :thumbsup2: to Ruby... as usual... witty banter with a bit of sarcasm in nice way...   :biglaugh:

And this one of the reasons I enjoy reading your posts ms. puddle...
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Heather on April 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
with that logic i should have stayed with my abusive ex-husband.......

just saying.....
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 23, 2010, 04:47:29 PM
I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: SippinTea on April 23, 2010, 06:32:42 PM
*cough*

:beret:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on April 23, 2010, 07:02:46 PM
Well then... I say we start outlawing happiness... no infectious *cough*ing of the oozing happiness that Sippin has... no *spitlaughing* from RJ... no *giggles* or *smirks*... if we aren't supposed to be happy... then we'll try to be what we are suppsed to be... *misersable*    :frustrated:

:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:
:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:
:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:
:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:
:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:

ok... so maybe not...

I think it is preposterous to think that we are not supposed to be capable of happiness... True happiness is every time a child is born, or smiles or laughs... or someone gets a revelation of One God, and takes part in the new birth experience... true happiness is having the Spirit of God living inside of you... or you find the "right" one to marry...

I dont think that we will continually be on "cloud 9", but there are moments in life where a person can be.  You can be unhappy, but still content... you can be sad, and content... being miserable is a choice... especially if you have the Spirit of almighty God living inside of you...!

No marriage is perfect... TRUE... but even in the tough times, which from all I can see, there can be a lot of tough times... Children get sick, children become disabled... children die! Spouses  get ill, and they die... Yes that is going to bring on sorrow... you can be content.

(Isaiah 61:3)  To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

Not saying you will be happy in the hard times, or the heartache... but you can still be content... and in being content... there is the ability by God to find True Happiness...

As far as being Happy being single? I am content being single, because I know that if god has someone out there for me, then in HIS time I will find her, and all this 26 yrs of waiting will be worth it...!

If I never get married, than there must have been a reason why... either it wasn't His will... or I missed His will somewhere down the line!

But either way... I know I am able to be content... or happy doing what God has called me to do, whatever and wherever that may be.

But I also believe God knows the true desires of our heart, and hears the prayers that have been offered up for my spouse... whoever and wherever she is since I was 15!

At the moment, I remain to be content and happy as I am... it allows me to do things and go places that if I were married might be harder, although not impossible. It allows me time to prepare what I feel God has given to me as His plan for my life, and when the right gal comes along, her puzzle piece will fit into the picture of my life that God has given me!

I heartily disagree with you on this point, but I most likely will not reply on this specific topic again to avoid tension... but anyhow..

God Bless You..  Yoop :grin:


Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: SippinTea on April 23, 2010, 07:05:07 PM
Great post, Yoop!

*rWooby thinks Da Yoop is one very smart guy*

:beret:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 23, 2010, 09:21:10 PM
Woohoo!  You GO with your bad posting self, Yoop!  Short of the stream of pitiful smilies, I don't think I could've said it any better myself.

:highfive:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 01:20:35 AM
You make some interesting points.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: SippinTea on April 24, 2010, 01:42:33 AM
Quote from: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 01:20:35 AM
Though it wasn't your intention, you've made my point for me. Contentment, not necessarily happiness, should be our aim. I don't think poor people, or crippled people, or imprisoned people, etc., etc. are ever "happy" to be where they are in life... but they can be content.

Ummm.... you're helping Thomas's view here, friend.

Generally speaking, those people don't CHOOSE to be where they are.

In this culture, you get to CHOOSE who you marry. One would be stupid to purposely choose someone who makes them unhappy. If they choose someone they love, someone they enjoy being with, someone who is their "equal" in spiritual things, and life throws a curve ball at them (say, their spouse ends up crippled, or loses their mind, or something equally devastating)... then no, their lives may not be "happy" - even if they learn to be content. But should you purposely choose a spouse who has, say, gone mental, just so's you can somehow prove to yourself (or the world in general??) that it's possible to be content in miserable circumstances? Ludicrous.

:beret:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on April 24, 2010, 02:07:58 AM
Sorry... one more post... perhaps the confusion is in word content... I love looking at words (as most of ya'll know...), their definitions and their synonyms and antonyms...

From thesaurus.com

Main Entry:   content
Part of Speech:   adjective
Definition:   happy, agreeable

Synonyms:    appeased, at ease, can't complain, comfortable, complacent, contented, fat dumb and happy, fulfilled, gratified, pleased as punch, satisfied, smug, tickled pink, willing

Antonyms:    depressed, disagreeable, discontent, dissatisfied, disturbed, needy, unhappy, upset, wanting

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Main Entry:   content
Part of Speech:   noun
Definition:   comfort, happiness

Synonyms:    contentment, ease, gratification, peace, peace of mind, pleasure, satisfaction

Antonyms:    discontent, displeasure, uncomfortableness, unhappiness

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Main Entry:   content
Part of Speech:   verb
Definition:   please

Synonyms:    appease, bewitch, captivate, charm, delight, enrapture, gladden, gratify, humor, indulge, make happy, mollify, placate, reconcile, satisfy, suffice, thrill, tickle

Antonyms:    anger, displease, disturb, upset

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Hmmm... so what we just saw from www.thesaurus.com, whom I trust with for definitions... if you dont... well... I dont know what else to say...

I did not prove your point, as our view points are basically diametrically opposed... and it would appear as though I am not the only one here who opposes your skewed viewpoint.

You are entitled to you opinion though, and as I have no need to further prove this point, because it is you and your immediate realm of influence that will suffer from your view point... I rest on this note...

Being content is being happy! My cup is neither half full, or half empty... God has just given me a larger than normal cup, and I can assure you that most of the time it is not only full, but overflowing...  :cool:

There are those who could attest to the fact that I am not happy-go-lucky 100% of the time... times of trial come and go, but I do believe they could attest to my being content, which as I just showed through various synonyms, is one in the same with being happy!

Friend, I choose to be happy... it is my choice as well as yours... you can choose to be unhappy if you like, but then it would be you making those around you unhappy... not God.

I would apologize for being as one friend put it... Mr. Rich-in-words... but I can't... so God Bless in Jesus Name...

Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 02:48:56 AM
Quote from: SippinTea on April 24, 2010, 01:42:33 AM
But should you purposely choose a spouse who has, say, gone mental, just so's you can somehow prove to yourself (or the world in general??) that it's possible to be content in miserable circumstances? Ludicrous.

:beret:
Did the story of Hosea come to mind as you were writing this?
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 02:57:31 AM
We can be content & satisfied in any situation.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: taco_harvell on April 24, 2010, 04:43:23 AM
Quote from: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 02:57:31 AM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on April 24, 2010, 02:07:58 AM

Being content is being happy...

If the question that started this thread boils down to this, content = happy, then there's no reason to ask the question in the first place. The only answer a Christian can give to the question of "Can you be content if X...?" is a resounding "Yes!". Contentment is a Biblical mandate, and to deny it's application in our lives is likely a form of idolatry. Excepting things like air, water, food (a suffocating man is never content) anything that can, by its absence or presence, deny you of contentment is exalted above God, is it not?

I read the original post to be asking something other than "Can you be content if you never marry?". I read it to be essentially asking "If having a wife/ husband is the desires of your heart, could you rejoice in your later years if this desire were to go unfulfilled?". My point from the beginning has been that we should "set your [our] hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God." (Colossians 3:1). For some life will bring the joys of marriage and family, a good job, good health, and all the rest while for others it will bring pain, sorrows, disappointments and more. Both lives, if the Lord tarries, will end in death. Both souls can find contentment only if their hearts are set on "things above".

If Job had died in his trials God would have remained blameless. The fact that he lived and God restored everything to him (and even more) is not a testimony to God's righteousness, but to His goodness. Job was able to endure his misery because his heart was set on things above; on what he would receive after this life was through.

Job 19:26 (King James Version)
26And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:


After reading this I have to ask a few questions. Using your premise that we are only to desire the things above, then are we never to desire things that make us happy here? Is it sinful then to desire a new car? Is it wrong to desire a better job? Should we simply be "content" where we are and just hold on till Jesus comes?

Nobody here asked or suggested that the desire for a spouse was anywhere near their desire for the things of God. It isn't wrong to want or desire things as long as your heart is right. There are many levels of desire, I desire to live for God with all my heart, I desire a krispy kreme doughnut and my heart has nothing to do with that just my sweet tooth.

It seems like your placing everything on the same level and that's not the case. Yes to some the desire to be "happy" out weighs their desire to live for God and that usually shows in how they live. If your hearts desire is living for God your life and other desires will fall in line with his will.


Psa 37:3  Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
Psa 37:4  Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
Psa 37:5  Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
Psa 37:6  And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 05:10:01 AM
The desire for a new car (or a doughnut for that matter) can not be compared with a person's desire to marry. We don't have a $10,000+ ceremony when a friend buys a car. We know there is something unique about the relationship between a man and a woman. There were no doughnuts or sports cars in Eden, but there was a couple of newlyweds.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Sis on April 24, 2010, 06:31:30 AM
Who had $10,000 to get married?  You don't HAVE to have a huge wedding with all the trappings. That's mostly for show.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 03:41:57 PM
I agree, and I hope the woman I marry agrees too! My idea of a great wedding is simple decorations and clothes with the bulk of the money being spent on copious amounts of great food and lots of comfortable places for people to sit, relax and just enjoy themselves. Maybe even one of those two or three day affairs? Who knows?
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Sis on April 24, 2010, 03:56:30 PM
I would rather spend the money on a trip. I think spending large amounts of money on free food for people who only come for free food is silly. Now, send me on a cruise so I can pig out on the ship, now, that's how to spend it.   :laughhard:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 24, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
TEN thousand dollars on a wedding?!!?  :o

Goodness.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: TheGirl on April 24, 2010, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 03:41:57 PM
I agree, and I hope the woman I marry agrees too! My idea of a great wedding is simple decorations and clothes with the bulk of the money being spent on copious amounts of great food and lots of comfortable places for people to sit, relax and just enjoy themselves. Maybe even one of those two or three day affairs? Who knows?

A two or three day affair? 10,000 sounds bout right lol
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: TheGirl on April 24, 2010, 06:43:31 PM
A two or three day affair? 10,000 sounds bout right lol
Is $10,000 a lot? My brother recently got married and I'm sure the wedding was at least close to that much. Her dress was around $1000, plus she had to buy the dresses of her bride's maids, right? The groom and groomsmen's cloths are probably another grand total... then the food, the decorations, the out-of-towners who need a place to stay, the honeymoon, etc. It adds up quick. But then she's hispanic so it was kind of a big wedding.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 24, 2010, 09:44:38 PM
Is $10,000 a lot??  In MY mind it is!!  I'd MUCH rather do something MEGA-simple and have that kind of money to spare when it's all said and done.  I just can't imagine spending that much.  I say keep it simple.  Save the money.

http://www.ourmarriage.com/html/who_pays_for_what.html

This website seems to be of the opinion that the bride pays for accomodations for out-of-town guests.  I don't think any out-of-town guest expects that to happen unless the bride's family has a huge home and can accommodate lots of people.

QuoteWedding Gown, Headpiece & Accessories:  The Bride's Family
Wedding Ring for Bride: The Groom

Wedding Ring for Groom: The Bride

Wedding Gift for Groom: The Bride

Wedding Gift for Bride:  The Groom

Bridesmaid Gifts:  The Bride

Groomsmen/Usher Gifts:  The Groom

Bride's Bouquet:  The Groom

Bridesmaid Bouquets:  The Bride's Family

Mother's Corsages:  The Groom

Grandmother Corsages:  The Bride's Family

Groom's Boutonniere
The Groom

Groomsmen Boutonnieres
The Groom

Usher's Boutonnieres:  The Groom

Ceremony/Reception Flowers:  The Bride's Family

Altar Baskets/Arches : The Bride's Family

Canopy/Carpet:  The Bride's Family

Kneeling Bench/Candleabrahs:  The Bride's Family

Rented Items for Wedding
The Bride's Family

Rented Items for Reception
The Bride's Family

Invitations/Announcements
The Bride's Family

Wedding Programs
The Bride's Family

Napkins/Matches/Printed Items
The Bride's Family

Marriage License
The Groom

Medical Visit for Bride
The Bride

Medical Visit for Groom
The Groom

Church Fee
The Bride's Family

Clergyman/Officiant Fee
The Groom

Musician/Soloist
The Bride's Family

Church Janitor
The Bride's Family

Reception Hall Fee
The Bride's Family

Catered Reception/Professional Services
The Bride's Family  

Wedding Photography
The Bride's Family

Video Photography
The Bride's Family

Orchestra/Band/DJ
The Bride's Family

Wedding Cake
The Bride's Family

Wedding Favors
The Bride's Family

Groom's Cake
The Groom's Family

Rice Bags
The Bride's Family

Rehearsal Dinner
The Grooms Family

Bridesmaid Luncheon
The Bride

Bachelor Party
Best Man/Groom's Attendants

Wedding Breakfast
The Bride's Family

Bridal Brunch
The Bride's Family

Bridesmaid's Gowns
Bridesmaid's

Maid of Honor Gown
Maid of Honor

Matron of Honor Gown
Matron of Honor

Best Man Formal Wear
Best Man

Usher's Formal Wear
Ushers

Groomsmen's Formal Wear
Groomsmen

Gloves/Ties/Ascots for Attendants
The Groom

Father of Bride Formal Wear
Bride's Family

Father of Groom Formal Wear
Groom's Family

Children's Formal Wear
The Children's Parents

Limousine Service
The Groom

Honeymoon Arrangements
The Groom

Travel Expenses to the Wedding
The Out-of-town Attendant or Family Member

Accommodations for out-of town Guests
The Bride

Gifts for the Couple
Guest, Attendants and Family
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: taco_harvell on April 24, 2010, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: The Cold Water Kid on April 24, 2010, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: TheGirl on April 24, 2010, 06:43:31 PM
A two or three day affair? 10,000 sounds bout right lol
Is $10,000 a lot? My brother recently got married and I'm sure the wedding was at least close to that much. Her dress was around $1000, plus she had to buy the dresses of her bride's maids, right? The groom and groomsmen's cloths are probably another grand total... then the food, the decorations, the out-of-towners who need a place to stay, the honeymoon, etc. It adds up quick. But then she's hispanic so it was kind of a big wedding.


When I got married we had a very nice wedding and it was under 5oo bucks including her dress. It's amazing what people have laying around their homes that you can borrow for nothing.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Sis on April 24, 2010, 10:00:51 PM
Some brides have to have everything new and expensive. What a waste of money.

That list had several things that I thought the bride paid for. Hmmmm.  But I was right, I was going to say that the bride's maids paid for their own clothing.

They should go to David's Bridal. They have dresses for $100, and some of them are really cute. Some of the not so modest ones can be purchased, and the bride can have a little jacket made to go over them. I've seen that done, too. But  waaaaayyyyy under $1000!

I guess I'm just cheap.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 24, 2010, 10:13:01 PM
I don't think you're cheap, Sis.

As for stuff "laying around the house": My mom and her sister both did wedding cakes and helped many people with weddings, so there are/were many things that I wouldn't even CONSIDER purchasing/renting.  And I have a mega boatload of favors that I could call in, as well as a bunch of stuff in storage.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: TheGirl on April 25, 2010, 01:25:35 AM
At one time I was acutally planning a wedding and have already bought a lot of stuff and would have came out way under $10,000! But there was a lot of things I was planning differently, as in catering and limousine services. . .its so "country" here a limo would seem rather ridculous lol
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on April 25, 2010, 01:59:11 AM
I was thinkin of breaking the wedding traditions and having a Wedding Gingerbread house instead of a wedding cake... it has most of the same ingredients... lol   :cool:

Ohh... and they taste good too!
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Sis on April 25, 2010, 02:02:51 AM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on April 24, 2010, 10:13:01 PM
I don't think you're cheap, Sis.

As for stuff "laying around the house": My mom and her sister both did wedding cakes and helped many people with weddings, so there are/were many things that I wouldn't even CONSIDER purchasing/renting.  And I have a mega boatload of favors that I could call in, as well as a bunch of stuff in storage.

You wouldn't rent a cake?  Neither would I!   :laughhard:

Yoop:  I like paradigms being broken sometimes. Sounds like a winner to me.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 25, 2010, 02:55:35 AM
Hmmm...  Mom had (now it's mine) a cake pan in the shape of a house.  Now that I'm thinking about it, it might be fun to incorporate a house cake into a wedding cake...  Hmmm...  Something to think about.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 25, 2010, 02:56:48 AM
Quote from: Sis on April 25, 2010, 02:02:51 AM
You wouldn't rent a cake?  Neither would I!   :laughhard:

:roll:
:pound:
Goofball!  lol
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: SippinTea on April 25, 2010, 04:15:48 AM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on April 25, 2010, 01:59:11 AM
I was thinkin of breaking the wedding traditions and having a Wedding Gingerbread house instead of a wedding cake... it has most of the same ingredients... lol   :cool:

Ohh... and they taste good too!

Ooo... I like that! Nice idea, Mr T. :thumbsup2:

I want(ed) to do a coffee bar thingy with all the fun stuff... flavored syrups, whipped cream, sprinkles, etc. But I think it may end up cost-prohibitive. *shrug* And I'd rather take an extra day for our honeymoon, than offer guests fun coffee drinks. I'm greedy like that. ;)

:beret:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Newsman on April 25, 2010, 05:53:40 AM
Hmmm...


John  :waving:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: sunlight on April 27, 2010, 06:16:28 PM
Quote from: taco_harvell on April 18, 2010, 01:15:57 AM
Are you happy being single? Do you feel you could remain single the rest of your life and be perfectly happy?
Do you feel only true happiness will come when you find someone to share your life with? Is marriage the only way you see yourself being content?
I am happy and content being single. I could remain single the rest of my life, and have often wondered in the past if that is what may end up happening. If true happiness only comes when you find someone to share your life with, that is something I haven't experienced yet, and have no knowledge of that greater happiness... so for now, the greatest happiness I have is serving God and being single. There is definitely more ways to be content than being married... If you aren't content single... how can you be content married? Aren't you to be *content whatsoever stage you find yourself in?*
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Gingerale on June 27, 2010, 06:16:42 AM
Better late than never, huh?



Are you happy being single? 
I would so much say happy, but I am content. After being married and now divorced, I am learning that unless I am in the perfect will of God when it comes to someone, I will not be truly happy. So, I guess I could say content. I am single until God picks out the right kind of man for me.  



Do you feel you could remain single the rest of your life and be perfectly happy?

I actually asked myself this a few days ago. I think there's always going to be a longing for romantic interactions- i.e. cuddles and hugs! But... If God were to choose to keep me to Himself, I'd be everso happy.  

Do you feel only true happiness will come when you find someone to share your life with? Is marriage the only way you see yourself being content?

Absolutely not. I am so happy right now. My life is lead by God, my heart is fixed on Him. And if I never remarry, I'll be fine with that, as long as I am involved in everything I can get my hands on when it comes to my calling. :)

Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: brysco on October 25, 2010, 06:03:40 PM
Are you happy being single? Do you feel you could remain single the rest of your life and be perfectly happy?
Happy? Not sure. Content, yes. I could remain single for the rest of my life and be perfectly content.


Do you feel only true happiness will come when you find someone to share your life with? Is marriage the only way you see yourself being content?
Happiness is conditional. Joy is from the Lord. I am content as a single man. But maybe I could live a fuller life if I was married. When I was 19 I thought I'd be married by the time I was 22. I am 28 now, and try not to think about it all so much.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on November 29, 2010, 12:55:00 AM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on April 24, 2010, 09:44:38 PM
Is $10,000 a lot??  In MY mind it is!!  I'd MUCH rather do something MEGA-simple and have that kind of money to spare when it's all said and done.  I just can't imagine spending that much.  I say keep it simple.  Save the money.

http://www.ourmarriage.com/html/who_pays_for_what.html

This website seems to be of the opinion that the bride pays for accomodations for out-of-town guests.  I don't think any out-of-town guest expects that to happen unless the bride's family has a huge home and can accommodate lots of people.

QuoteWedding Gown, Headpiece & Accessories:  The Bride's Family
Wedding Ring for Bride: The Groom
Wedding Ring for Groom: The Bride  

Wedding Gift for Groom: The Bride
So agreeing to marry the guy isn't gift enough for him??  LOL

Wedding Gift for Bride:  The Groom
See above! LOL

Bridesmaid Gifts:  The Bride
Hmmm... The chance to be apart of their friends once in a lifetime event isn't enough??

Groomsmen/Usher Gifts:  The Groom
See above! LOL, Not to mention a chance to walk one of the brides lovely bridemaids down the aisle? (only applies if singles are the only ones involved...)

Bride's Bouquet:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Bridesmaid Bouquets:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Mother's Corsages:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Grandmother Corsages:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Groom's Boutonniere: The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)
Groomsmen Boutonnieres: The Groom
  Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Usher's Boutonnieres:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)


Ceremony/Reception Flowers:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Good grief... at this point in time... I think someone should have implimented a BYOF rule!  LOL


Altar Baskets/Arches : The Bride's Family
Totally neccessary??  :smirk2:

Canopy/Carpet:  The Bride's Family
Totally neccessary?? 

Kneeling Bench/Candleabrahs:  The Bride's Family
A nice church alter would work fine... lol

Rented Items for Wedding - The Bride's Family
Why are you renting the Brides Family???  They should want to be there... LOL

JK... what needs to rented...??

Rented Items for Reception - The Bride's Family
See above...

Invitations/Announcements - The Bride's Family
Important... but find a friend who is good with that stuff... consider the work a wedding present and pay for paper and shipping... or better yet... Email them! LOL... JK!

Wedding Programs - The Bride's Family
There is gonna be a wedding and then a reception... how hard is this to grasp! LOL

Napkins/Matches/Printed Items - The Bride's Family
Ummm... ok...  So leftover Christmas or Thanksgiving napkins aren't appropriate??   :P

Marriage License - The Groom
Important...  

Medical Visit for Bride - The Bride
LOL... ummm... I know what this is for... but getting her head checked before she marries the guy might be a good thing as well...

Medical Visit for Groom - The Groom
LOL... ummm... I know what this is for... but getting his head checked before he marries the gal might be a good thing as well...



Church Fee - The Bride's Family
If using your own church... this expense could be eliminated

Clergyman/Officiant Fee - The Groom
If using one of your Pastors... should there be a fee??

Musician/Soloist - The Bride's Family
Not neccessarily expensive... does your church do music? How about your great Aunt Ruth (preferably after she shaves off her wierd beard!

But I do know this will be kinda expensive when I decide to get married... Don Francisco is slightly expensive!   :biglaugh:

Church Janitor - The Bride's Family
Hmmm... can't there be a group of people who helps out with this... ??

Reception Hall Fee - The Bride's Family
Again... if your church is used... cheap... if not available... Parks are relatively cheap... lol

Catered Reception/Professional Services - The Bride's Family 
2 words... Church Potluck!

Wedding Photography - The Bride's Family
I got this one covered...

Video Photography - The Bride's Family
Not one of my concerns...

Orchestra/Band/DJ - The Bride's Family
Hmmm...

Wedding Cake - The Bride's Family
You can make a nice cake... or find someone who can decorate it nice... why spend hundreds of $'s on something people are going to ingest and then eliminate...??  LOL

Wedding Favors- The Bride's Family
??

Groom's Cake - The Groom's Family
Isn't one cake enough?? I'd rather it be a peanut butter pie! LOL

Rice Bags - The Bride's Family
No rice... out of respect for seagulls... only Bubbles...   :P

Rehearsal Dinner - The Grooms Family
Something simple... Chili...

Bridesmaid Luncheon - The Bride
Something simple...

Bachelor Party - Best Man/Groom's Attendants
Needed expense... something like Paintball or Lasertag!

Wedding Breakfast - The Bride's Family
Pancakes are inexpensive!

Bridal Brunch - The Bride's Family
There is gonna be food at the reception... if they eat much more... will they fit into those expensive dresses??

Bridesmaid's Gowns - Bridesmaid's
Yup

Maid of Honor Gown - Maid of Honor
Yup

Matron of Honor Gown - Matron of Honor
Yup

Best Man Formal Wear - Best Man
Yup

Usher's Formal Wear - Ushers
Yup

Groomsmen's Formal Wear - Groomsmen
Yup

Gloves/Ties/Ascots for Attendants - The Groom
Ties maybe... I don't even know what an ascot is! LOL!
Father of Bride Formal Wear - Bride's Family

Father of Groom Formal Wear - Groom's Family
I am sure he prolly has a suit! Mine won't be there anyhow... so no expense...

Children's Formal Wear - The Children's Parents
Yup

Limousine Service - The Groom
That could be expensive... but why do you need a limo??

Honeymoon Arrangements - The Groom
Yes, yes... of course...

Travel Expenses to the Wedding - The Out-of-town Attendant or Family Member
If you want to come to my wedding or be a part of it... you might need to do this on your own.. lol

Accommodations for out-of town Guests - The Bride
Poppycock... they want to come... rent a hotel... or join the rest of the campers...! LOL

Gifts for the Couple - Guest, Attendants and Family
AMEN!!

LOL... ok... so I am not married... but that list was exhausting... Why do weddings need to be so expensive? They dont... they can be nice... but inexpensive... just gotta think things through!

No wedding plans for me... just incase your BOB or Newsman... and your plotting to turn this into something worth quoting! LOL   :laughhard:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Newsman on November 29, 2010, 02:15:35 AM
You may not be married, and may be unwilling to call your 'friends with lots of potential' relationship dating, but even Igor the Incompetent should be able to have an idea of what's on your mind!


John/IBOB  :waving:


Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 29, 2010, 12:55:00 AM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on April 24, 2010, 09:44:38 PM
Is $10,000 a lot??  In MY mind it is!!  I'd MUCH rather do something MEGA-simple and have that kind of money to spare when it's all said and done.  I just can't imagine spending that much.  I say keep it simple.  Save the money.

http://www.ourmarriage.com/html/who_pays_for_what.html

This website seems to be of the opinion that the bride pays for accomodations for out-of-town guests.  I don't think any out-of-town guest expects that to happen unless the bride's family has a huge home and can accommodate lots of people.

QuoteWedding Gown, Headpiece & Accessories:  The Bride's Family
Wedding Ring for Bride: The Groom
Wedding Ring for Groom: The Bride  

Wedding Gift for Groom: The Bride
So agreeing to marry the guy isn't gift enough for him??  LOL

Wedding Gift for Bride:  The Groom
See above! LOL

Bridesmaid Gifts:  The Bride
Hmmm... The chance to be apart of their friends once in a lifetime event isn't enough??

Groomsmen/Usher Gifts:  The Groom
See above! LOL, Not to mention a chance to walk one of the brides lovely bridemaids down the aisle? (only applies if singles are the only ones involved...)

Bride's Bouquet:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Bridesmaid Bouquets:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Mother's Corsages:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Grandmother Corsages:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Groom's Boutonniere: The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)
Groomsmen Boutonnieres: The Groom
  Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Usher's Boutonnieres:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)


Ceremony/Reception Flowers:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Good grief... at this point in time... I think someone should have implimented a BYOF rule!  LOL


Altar Baskets/Arches : The Bride's Family
Totally neccessary??  :smirk2:

Canopy/Carpet:  The Bride's Family
Totally neccessary?? 

Kneeling Bench/Candleabrahs:  The Bride's Family
A nice church alter would work fine... lol

Rented Items for Wedding - The Bride's Family
Why are you renting the Brides Family???  They should want to be there... LOL

JK... what needs to rented...??

Rented Items for Reception - The Bride's Family
See above...

Invitations/Announcements - The Bride's Family
Important... but find a friend who is good with that stuff... consider the work a wedding present and pay for paper and shipping... or better yet... Email them! LOL... JK!

Wedding Programs - The Bride's Family
There is gonna be a wedding and then a reception... how hard is this to grasp! LOL

Napkins/Matches/Printed Items - The Bride's Family
Ummm... ok...  So leftover Christmas or Thanksgiving napkins aren't appropriate??   :P

Marriage License - The Groom
Important...  

Medical Visit for Bride - The Bride
LOL... ummm... I know what this is for... but getting her head checked before she marries the guy might be a good thing as well...

Medical Visit for Groom - The Groom
LOL... ummm... I know what this is for... but getting his head checked before he marries the gal might be a good thing as well...



Church Fee - The Bride's Family
If using your own church... this expense could be eliminated

Clergyman/Officiant Fee - The Groom
If using one of your Pastors... should there be a fee??

Musician/Soloist - The Bride's Family
Not neccessarily expensive... does your church do music? How about your great Aunt Ruth (preferably after she shaves off her wierd beard!

But I do know this will be kinda expensive when I decide to get married... Don Francisco is slightly expensive!   :biglaugh:

Church Janitor - The Bride's Family
Hmmm... can't there be a group of people who helps out with this... ??

Reception Hall Fee - The Bride's Family
Again... if your church is used... cheap... if not available... Parks are relatively cheap... lol

Catered Reception/Professional Services - The Bride's Family 
2 words... Church Potluck!

Wedding Photography - The Bride's Family
I got this one covered...

Video Photography - The Bride's Family
Not one of my concerns...

Orchestra/Band/DJ - The Bride's Family
Hmmm...

Wedding Cake - The Bride's Family
You can make a nice cake... or find someone who can decorate it nice... why spend hundreds of $'s on something people are going to ingest and then eliminate...??  LOL

Wedding Favors- The Bride's Family
??

Groom's Cake - The Groom's Family
Isn't one cake enough?? I'd rather it be a peanut butter pie! LOL

Rice Bags - The Bride's Family
No rice... out of respect for seagulls... only Bubbles...   :P

Rehearsal Dinner - The Grooms Family
Something simple... Chili...

Bridesmaid Luncheon - The Bride
Something simple...

Bachelor Party - Best Man/Groom's Attendants
Needed expense... something like Paintball or Lasertag!

Wedding Breakfast - The Bride's Family
Pancakes are inexpensive!

Bridal Brunch - The Bride's Family
There is gonna be food at the reception... if they eat much more... will they fit into those expensive dresses??

Bridesmaid's Gowns - Bridesmaid's
Yup

Maid of Honor Gown - Maid of Honor
Yup

Matron of Honor Gown - Matron of Honor
Yup

Best Man Formal Wear - Best Man
Yup

Usher's Formal Wear - Ushers
Yup

Groomsmen's Formal Wear - Groomsmen
Yup

Gloves/Ties/Ascots for Attendants - The Groom
Ties maybe... I don't even know what an ascot is! LOL!
Father of Bride Formal Wear - Bride's Family

Father of Groom Formal Wear - Groom's Family
I am sure he prolly has a suit! Mine won't be there anyhow... so no expense...

Children's Formal Wear - The Children's Parents
Yup

Limousine Service - The Groom
That could be expensive... but why do you need a limo??

Honeymoon Arrangements - The Groom
Yes, yes... of course...

Travel Expenses to the Wedding - The Out-of-town Attendant or Family Member
If you want to come to my wedding or be a part of it... you might need to do this on your own.. lol

Accommodations for out-of town Guests - The Bride
Poppycock... they want to come... rent a hotel... or join the rest of the campers...! LOL

Gifts for the Couple - Guest, Attendants and Family
AMEN!!

LOL... ok... so I am not married... but that list was exhausting... Why do weddings need to be so expensive? They dont... they can be nice... but inexpensive... just gotta think things through!

No wedding plans for me... just incase your BOB or Newsman... and your plotting to turn this into something worth quoting! LOL   :laughhard:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: The Purple Fuzzy on November 29, 2010, 02:30:38 AM
:laughat:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: upcchris on November 29, 2010, 02:56:16 AM
(http://server11.sitewizard.co.uk/sites/jackbunneys/images/ascot_day_wedding_cravat.jpg)

(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2780/img0053cv2.jpg)


These are ascots - a cross between a scarf and a tie - also referred to as a cravat.

Nice how the bucks night is a necessary expense, but that nothing else seems to be  :lol:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Roscoe on November 29, 2010, 03:00:25 AM
    I so agree with IBOB/ Newsman! And we don't have to "turn this into something worth quoting", you did that for us!  :laughhard:(    :marry: Thomas' new favorite smiley)
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on November 29, 2010, 03:53:39 AM
Quote from: five-oh on November 29, 2010, 03:00:25 AM
    I so agree with IBOB/ Newsman! And we don't have to "turn this into something worth quoting", you did that for us!  :laughhard:(    :marry: Thomas' new favorite smiley)

:pound: 's BOB! LOL   :laughhard:

"BOB - LOL! I had acceptance before... and admittance to some... I simply wasn't ready to announce it to the world... you and another 'lil sister kinda made that inevitable! LOL!

To the rest of my friends... and mom... lol, I am in the process of getting to know someone. We are a little more than friends... but do not like the whole "dating" or BF / GF title... or the connotations that come with those titles... lol.

So at the moment "we are friends seeking Gods will concerning the potential possibilities of a future with each other"... considering that marriage was created by God and intended to be a lifelong commitment... I take that very seriously and so does she, and although it doesn't always end that way... I intend to make a good attempt at it... :)"


Direct quote from my relationship status change... Had to do it... since BOB and a bratty lil sister kept making comments!! LOL... My mom was getting all mellodramatic on me over it... cause I hadn't mentioned it yet...

So quote away... "I ain't Skeered!"
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Roscoe on November 29, 2010, 04:20:41 AM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 29, 2010, 03:53:39 AM
Quote from: five-oh on November 29, 2010, 03:00:25 AM
    I so agree with IBOB/ Newsman! And we don't have to "turn this into something worth quoting", you did that for us!  :laughhard:(    :marry: Thomas' new favorite smiley)

:pound: 's BOB! LOL   :laughhard:

"BOB - LOL! I had acceptance before... and admittance to some... I simply wasn't ready to announce it to the world... you and another 'lil sister kinda made that inevitable! LOL!

To the rest of my friends... and mom... lol, I am in the process of getting to know someone. We are a little more than friends... but do not like the whole "dating" or BF / GF title... or the connotations that come with those titles... lol.

So at the moment "we are friends seeking Gods will concerning the potential possibilities of a future with each other"... considering that marriage was created by God and intended to be a lifelong commitment... I take that very seriously and so does she, and although it doesn't always end that way... I intend to make a good attempt at it... :)"


Direct quote from my relationship status change... Had to do it... since BOB and a bratty lil sister kept making comments!! LOL... My mom was getting all mellodramatic on me over it... cause I hadn't mentioned it yet...

So quote away... "I ain't Skeered!"

Ooops! Sorry 'bout that Sir T- Didn't mean to stir up anything, but really, little sister helped make it too easy. Sure didn't mean to stir up the mother unit. :noo: Oh, and for someone that claims to be not so good at technical writing, that explaination of your relationship is well crafted- looks like a cautous lawyer wrote it. :laughhard:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on November 29, 2010, 04:42:21 AM
Quote from: five-oh on November 29, 2010, 04:20:41 AM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 29, 2010, 03:53:39 AM
Quote from: five-oh on November 29, 2010, 03:00:25 AM
    I so agree with IBOB/ Newsman! And we don't have to "turn this into something worth quoting", you did that for us!  :laughhard:(    :marry: Thomas' new favorite smiley)

:pound: 's BOB! LOL   :laughhard:

"BOB - LOL! I had acceptance before... and admittance to some... I simply wasn't ready to announce it to the world... you and another 'lil sister kinda made that inevitable! LOL!

To the rest of my friends... and mom... lol, I am in the process of getting to know someone. We are a little more than friends... but do not like the whole "dating" or BF / GF title... or the connotations that come with those titles... lol.

So at the moment "we are friends seeking Gods will concerning the potential possibilities of a future with each other"... considering that marriage was created by God and intended to be a lifelong commitment... I take that very seriously and so does she, and although it doesn't always end that way... I intend to make a good attempt at it... :)"


Direct quote from my relationship status change... Had to do it... since BOB and a bratty lil sister kept making comments!! LOL... My mom was getting all mellodramatic on me over it... cause I hadn't mentioned it yet...

So quote away... "I ain't Skeered!"

Ooops! Sorry 'bout that Sir T- Didn't mean to stir up anything, but really, little sister helped make it too easy. Sure didn't mean to stir up the mother unit. :noo: Oh, and for someone that claims to be not so good at technical writing, that explaination of your relationship is well crafted- looks like a cautous lawyer wrote it. :laughhard:

:laughhard:  I have my moments of brilliance... lol. A cautious lawyer, eh?  Hmmm... maybe I should go to law school afterall... lol   :P
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: sunlight on November 29, 2010, 10:11:07 PM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 29, 2010, 12:55:00 AM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on April 24, 2010, 09:44:38 PM
Is $10,000 a lot??  In MY mind it is!!  I'd MUCH rather do something MEGA-simple and have that kind of money to spare when it's all said and done.  I just can't imagine spending that much.  I say keep it simple.  Save the money.

http://www.ourmarriage.com/html/who_pays_for_what.html

This website seems to be of the opinion that the bride pays for accomodations for out-of-town guests.  I don't think any out-of-town guest expects that to happen unless the bride's family has a huge home and can accommodate lots of people.

QuoteWedding Gown, Headpiece & Accessories:  The Bride's Family
Wedding Ring for Bride: The Groom
Wedding Ring for Groom: The Bride  

Wedding Gift for Groom: The Bride
So agreeing to marry the guy isn't gift enough for him??  LOL

Wedding Gift for Bride:  The Groom
See above! LOL

Bridesmaid Gifts:  The Bride
Hmmm... The chance to be apart of their friends once in a lifetime event isn't enough??

Groomsmen/Usher Gifts:  The Groom
See above! LOL, Not to mention a chance to walk one of the brides lovely bridemaids down the aisle? (only applies if singles are the only ones involved...)

Bride's Bouquet:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Bridesmaid Bouquets:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Mother's Corsages:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Grandmother Corsages:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Groom's Boutonniere: The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)
Groomsmen Boutonnieres: The Groom
  Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Usher's Boutonnieres:  The Groom
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)


Ceremony/Reception Flowers:  The Bride's Family
Flowers are not that expensive if you price shop! :)

Good grief... at this point in time... I think someone should have implimented a BYOF rule!  LOL


Altar Baskets/Arches : The Bride's Family
Totally neccessary??  :smirk2:

Canopy/Carpet:  The Bride's Family
Totally neccessary?? 

Kneeling Bench/Candleabrahs:  The Bride's Family
A nice church alter would work fine... lol

Rented Items for Wedding - The Bride's Family
Why are you renting the Brides Family???  They should want to be there... LOL

JK... what needs to rented...??

Rented Items for Reception - The Bride's Family
See above...

Invitations/Announcements - The Bride's Family
Important... but find a friend who is good with that stuff... consider the work a wedding present and pay for paper and shipping... or better yet... Email them! LOL... JK!

Wedding Programs - The Bride's Family
There is gonna be a wedding and then a reception... how hard is this to grasp! LOL

Napkins/Matches/Printed Items - The Bride's Family
Ummm... ok...  So leftover Christmas or Thanksgiving napkins aren't appropriate??   :P

Marriage License - The Groom
Important...  

Medical Visit for Bride - The Bride
LOL... ummm... I know what this is for... but getting her head checked before she marries the guy might be a good thing as well...

Medical Visit for Groom - The Groom
LOL... ummm... I know what this is for... but getting his head checked before he marries the gal might be a good thing as well...



Church Fee - The Bride's Family
If using your own church... this expense could be eliminated

Clergyman/Officiant Fee - The Groom
If using one of your Pastors... should there be a fee??

Musician/Soloist - The Bride's Family
Not neccessarily expensive... does your church do music? How about your great Aunt Ruth (preferably after she shaves off her wierd beard!

But I do know this will be kinda expensive when I decide to get married... Don Francisco is slightly expensive!   :biglaugh:

Church Janitor - The Bride's Family
Hmmm... can't there be a group of people who helps out with this... ??

Reception Hall Fee - The Bride's Family
Again... if your church is used... cheap... if not available... Parks are relatively cheap... lol

Catered Reception/Professional Services - The Bride's Family 
2 words... Church Potluck!

Wedding Photography - The Bride's Family
I got this one covered...

Video Photography - The Bride's Family
Not one of my concerns...

Orchestra/Band/DJ - The Bride's Family
Hmmm...

Wedding Cake - The Bride's Family
You can make a nice cake... or find someone who can decorate it nice... why spend hundreds of $'s on something people are going to ingest and then eliminate...??  LOL

Wedding Favors- The Bride's Family
??

Groom's Cake - The Groom's Family
Isn't one cake enough?? I'd rather it be a peanut butter pie! LOL

Rice Bags - The Bride's Family
No rice... out of respect for seagulls... only Bubbles...   :P

Rehearsal Dinner - The Grooms Family
Something simple... Chili...

Bridesmaid Luncheon - The Bride
Something simple...

Bachelor Party - Best Man/Groom's Attendants
Needed expense... something like Paintball or Lasertag!

Wedding Breakfast - The Bride's Family
Pancakes are inexpensive!

Bridal Brunch - The Bride's Family
There is gonna be food at the reception... if they eat much more... will they fit into those expensive dresses??

Bridesmaid's Gowns - Bridesmaid's
Yup

Maid of Honor Gown - Maid of Honor
Yup

Matron of Honor Gown - Matron of Honor
Yup

Best Man Formal Wear - Best Man
Yup

Usher's Formal Wear - Ushers
Yup

Groomsmen's Formal Wear - Groomsmen
Yup

Gloves/Ties/Ascots for Attendants - The Groom
Ties maybe... I don't even know what an ascot is! LOL!
Father of Bride Formal Wear - Bride's Family

Father of Groom Formal Wear - Groom's Family
I am sure he prolly has a suit! Mine won't be there anyhow... so no expense...

Children's Formal Wear - The Children's Parents
Yup

Limousine Service - The Groom
That could be expensive... but why do you need a limo??

Honeymoon Arrangements - The Groom
Yes, yes... of course...

Travel Expenses to the Wedding - The Out-of-town Attendant or Family Member
If you want to come to my wedding or be a part of it... you might need to do this on your own.. lol

Accommodations for out-of town Guests - The Bride
Poppycock... they want to come... rent a hotel... or join the rest of the campers...! LOL

Gifts for the Couple - Guest, Attendants and Family
AMEN!!

LOL... ok... so I am not married... but that list was exhausting... Why do weddings need to be so expensive? They dont... they can be nice... but inexpensive... just gotta think things through!

No wedding plans for me... just incase your BOB or Newsman... and your plotting to turn this into something worth quoting! LOL   :laughhard:

And this is why Molly is going to need help... *cough*
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on November 29, 2010, 10:45:07 PM
Quote from: sunlight on November 29, 2010, 10:11:07 PM
And this is why Molly is going to need help... *cough*

HEY NOW!!  :pound: 's Chel!   :laughhard:

I just turned a $20,000 monster into a nice  < $1000 event!

Someone needs to! THAT much money spent on "1" single day... is not only obnoxious... but dumb! LOL! I am being serious now...LOL! (well kinda...)

If your going to spend that much money in one day... at least make it fun... give all the guest Paintball guns... and have a blow out... or rent a Laser Tag Emporium... with Go Karting, and Mini Golf... (I hate minigolf!)

Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: SippinTea on November 30, 2010, 06:50:33 AM
*nods wisely with Chel* Yup. Poor Molly is gonna need all the help she can get. Okay, how about you volunteer to do the photos, and I'll volunteer to help with decorating. And we can BOTH volunteer to pound Yoop when he gets outta line. :P

:beret:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 07:58:54 AM
Quote from: SippinTea on November 30, 2010, 06:50:33 AM
*nods wisely with Chel* Yup. Poor Molly is gonna need all the help she can get. Okay, how about you volunteer to do the photos, and I'll volunteer to help with decorating. And we can BOTH volunteer to pound Yoop when he gets outta line. :P

:beret:

You've both already been hired for said positions... should there be a wedding! Ever! LOL... well... except the  :pound: 'n part! LOL!  But I am sure there'll be a time for that as well... maybe at that non-existent Bridal Luncheon... LOL   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Sis on November 30, 2010, 10:26:54 AM
Quote from: SippinTea on November 30, 2010, 06:50:33 AM
And we can BOTH volunteer to pound Yoop when he gets outta line. :P

:beret:

Why wait until then? Practice, practice, practice.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Roscoe on November 30, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: SippinTea on November 30, 2010, 06:50:33 AM
*nods wisely with Chel* Yup. Poor Molly is gonna need all the help she can get. Okay, how about you volunteer to do the photos, and I'll volunteer to help with decorating. And we can BOTH volunteer to pound Yoop when he gets outta line. :P

:beret:

Ladies, I know that I am but a lowly man, but I would love to volunteer for the "pound Yoop when he's outta line" job.  :lol: And as Sis says, practice makes perfect..... :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: Yoop, just because. (practice)  :laughhard:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 08:12:55 PM
Quote from: five-oh on November 30, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: SippinTea on November 30, 2010, 06:50:33 AM
*nods wisely with Chel* Yup. Poor Molly is gonna need all the help she can get. Okay, how about you volunteer to do the photos, and I'll volunteer to help with decorating. And we can BOTH volunteer to pound Yoop when he gets outta line. :P

:beret:

Ladies, I know that I am but a lowly man, but I would love to volunteer for the "pound Yoop when he's outta line" job.  :lol: And as Sis says, practice makes perfect..... :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: Yoop, just because. (practice)  :laughhard:

BOB... you are on the list of "targets" when I do actually have a wedding... my groomsmen will be armed with automatic paintball guns and will be shooting any troublemakers...! Normally I reserve this list simply for family members that I fear will be arguing... but your special... you are on the Top 5 list for targets!  :)  And watch out for them Paintball mines and claymores...   :laughhard:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Roscoe on November 30, 2010, 08:54:08 PM

Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 08:12:55 PM
BOB... you are on the list of "targets" when I do actually have a wedding... my groomsmen will be armed with automatic paintball guns and will be shooting any troublemakers...! Normally I reserve this list simply for family members that I fear will be arguing... but your special... you are on the Top 5 list for targets!  :)  And watch out for them Paintball mines and claymores...   :laughhard:

:clap: :clap: Alright! I've finally made a "Top Five" list. Thanks to all who've made this possible, especially a "little sister" that will probably never see this. :lol: And remember, dear Yoop, I'll be armed when I show up at your soon to be wedding. After all, it's a long trip and there might be hostile force between here and there. :hypocrite:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: five-oh on November 30, 2010, 08:54:08 PM

Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 08:12:55 PM
BOB... you are on the list of "targets" when I do actually have a wedding... my groomsmen will be armed with automatic paintball guns and will be shooting any troublemakers...! Normally I reserve this list simply for family members that I fear will be arguing... but your special... you are on the Top 5 list for targets!  :)  And watch out for them Paintball mines and claymores...   :laughhard:

:clap: :clap: Alright! I've finally made a "Top Five" list. Thanks to all who've made this possible, especially a "little sister" that will probably never see this. :lol: And remember, dear Yoop, I'll be armed when I show up at your soon to be wedding. After all, it's a long trip and there might be hostile force between here and there. :hypocrite:

Haha... yes... I doubt she'll ever see this! LOL!

As long as you come prepared for it... if your good enough... perhaps I will enlist you as head of the security division! How do you feel about playing sniper with a paintball gun? I have some people on the list I will need shot repeatedly! (Such as Biological Father and Step-father of the Groom... Dumb mixed and blended family junk... LOL)   :laughhard:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Roscoe on November 30, 2010, 09:39:31 PM
 Do I gotta use a paintball gun? LOL! Or do they make a 1911 style paintball gun? Seriously, I've never shot a paintball gun before in my life, I guess I need to go find one and practice. :D
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 10:25:39 PM
Quote from: five-oh on November 30, 2010, 09:39:31 PM
Do I gotta use a paintball gun? LOL! Or do they make a 1911 style paintball gun? Seriously, I've never shot a paintball gun before in my life, I guess I need to go find one and practice. :D

Haha... Betting they do...! I have shot one once... But one of my friends always joked that we'll have each other armed with them at our weddings... Trouble makers get shot... Get shot 3 times and your out! Lol... Maybe that is why neither of us have married yet... Lol! Besides the fact we wanted to set off things that go boom... (both former USAF Ammo guys! Lol).  :laughhard:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: taco_harvell on November 30, 2010, 10:31:33 PM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 08:12:55 PM
Quote from: five-oh on November 30, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: SippinTea on November 30, 2010, 06:50:33 AM
*nods wisely with Chel* Yup. Poor Molly is gonna need all the help she can get. Okay, how about you volunteer to do the photos, and I'll volunteer to help with decorating. And we can BOTH volunteer to pound Yoop when he gets outta line. :P

:beret:

Ladies, I know that I am but a lowly man, but I would love to volunteer for the "pound Yoop when he's outta line" job.  :lol: And as Sis says, practice makes perfect..... :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: Yoop, just because. (practice)  :laughhard:

BOB... you are on the list of "targets" when I do actually have a wedding... my groomsmen will be armed with automatic paintball guns and will be shooting any troublemakers...! Normally I reserve this list simply for family members that I fear will be arguing... but your special... you are on the Top 5 list for targets!  :)  And watch out for them Paintball mines and claymores...   :laughhard:


Then I volunteer as a Groomsmen!!! lol

I will be daring someone to stand and object just so I can blast them. lol
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: MsJennJenn on November 30, 2010, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 10:25:39 PM
Quote from: five-oh on November 30, 2010, 09:39:31 PM
Do I gotta use a paintball gun? LOL! Or do they make a 1911 style paintball gun? Seriously, I've never shot a paintball gun before in my life, I guess I need to go find one and practice. :D

Haha... Betting they do...! I have shot one once... But one of my friends always joked that we'll have each other armed with them at our weddings... Trouble makers get shot... Get shot 3 times and your out! Lol... Maybe that is why neither of us have married yet... Lol! Besides the fact we wanted to set off things that go boom... (both former USAF Ammo guys! Lol).  :laughhard:

I was in a wedding once, where the guys all had those can noise makers - that make a HORRIFICALLY loud noise when blown....and when it was time for the bride and groom they blew them. I think the bride, groom, wedding party and half of the congregation all jumped a foot in the air when they went off!
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Sis on December 01, 2010, 01:26:13 AM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 08:12:55 PM

BOB... you are on the list of "targets" when I do actually have a wedding... my groomsmen will be armed with automatic paintball guns and will be shooting any troublemakers...! Normally I reserve this list simply for family members that I fear will be arguing... but your special... you are on the Top 5 list for targets!  :)  And watch out for them Paintball mines and claymores...   :laughhard:

Just as long as the paint matches the bride's chosen colors.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: SippinTea on December 01, 2010, 06:24:39 AM
Taco - Haha! Hmm... *thinks*... maybe I should hire you for MY wedding, in that case.  :updown: Err, if you'll blast anyone who objects, that it.  :updown:

Sis - :lol: Nice.

:beret:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on December 01, 2010, 06:30:57 AM
Quote from: taco_harvell on November 30, 2010, 10:31:33 PM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 08:12:55 PM
Quote from: five-oh on November 30, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: SippinTea on November 30, 2010, 06:50:33 AM
*nods wisely with Chel* Yup. Poor Molly is gonna need all the help she can get. Okay, how about you volunteer to do the photos, and I'll volunteer to help with decorating. And we can BOTH volunteer to pound Yoop when he gets outta line. :P

:beret:

Ladies, I know that I am but a lowly man, but I would love to volunteer for the "pound Yoop when he's outta line" job.  :lol: And as Sis says, practice makes perfect..... :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: Yoop, just because. (practice)  :laughhard:

BOB... you are on the list of "targets" when I do actually have a wedding... my groomsmen will be armed with automatic paintball guns and will be shooting any troublemakers...! Normally I reserve this list simply for family members that I fear will be arguing... but your special... you are on the Top 5 list for targets!  :)  And watch out for them Paintball mines and claymores...   :laughhard:


Then I volunteer as a Groomsmen!!! lol

I will be daring someone to stand and object just so I can blast them. lol

YAY! Your Hired...  :)

Quote from: Sis on December 01, 2010, 01:26:13 AM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on November 30, 2010, 08:12:55 PM

BOB... you are on the list of "targets" when I do actually have a wedding... my groomsmen will be armed with automatic paintball guns and will be shooting any troublemakers...! Normally I reserve this list simply for family members that I fear will be arguing... but your special... you are on the Top 5 list for targets!  :)  And watch out for them Paintball mines and claymores...   :laughhard:

Just as long as the paint matches the bride's chosen colors.

LOL... I'll have to check on that when the time comes... lol

Quote from: SippinTea on December 01, 2010, 06:24:39 AM
Taco - Haha! Hmm... *thinks*... maybe I should hire you for MY wedding, in that case.  :updown: Err, if you'll blast anyone who objects, that it.  :updown:

Sis - :lol: Nice.

:beret:
Yes... don't forget I volunteered for that as well... quite a while ago! LOL... Camera in one hand... M-16 Paintball gun with silencer in the other...  Just call me "Mr. T"...   :)
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: SippinTea on December 01, 2010, 06:50:56 AM
*grin* You're already hired, Mr T. But with a job that big, it may require more than one person.

:beret:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on December 01, 2010, 06:53:25 AM
Quote from: SippinTea on December 01, 2010, 06:50:56 AM
*grin* You're already hired, Mr T. But with a job that big, it may require more than one person.

:beret:

Ahh ok... I guess even Rambo had a sidekick... and we could use BOB as a diversion...   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: nwlife on December 21, 2010, 01:37:13 AM
Just remember the best place to shop for wedding flowers is the grave yard after memorial day!

That's about as cheap as you can get! :D
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Kloey on April 07, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on April 23, 2010, 07:02:46 PM
Well then... I say we start outlawing happiness... no infectious *cough*ing of the oozing happiness that Sippin has... no *spitlaughing* from RJ... no *giggles* or *smirks*... if we aren't supposed to be happy... then we'll try to be what we are suppsed to be... *misersable*    :frustrated:

:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:
:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:
:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:
:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:
:frustrated:                          :tantrum:                      :reaction:                    :banghead:

ok... so maybe not...

I think it is preposterous to think that we are not supposed to be capable of happiness... True happiness is every time a child is born, or smiles or laughs... or someone gets a revelation of One God, and takes part in the new birth experience... true happiness is having the Spirit of God living inside of you... or you find the "right" one to marry...

I dont think that we will continually be on "cloud 9", but there are moments in life where a person can be.  You can be unhappy, but still content... you can be sad, and content... being miserable is a choice... especially if you have the Spirit of almighty God living inside of you...!

No marriage is perfect... TRUE... but even in the tough times, which from all I can see, there can be a lot of tough times... Children get sick, children become disabled... children die! Spouses  get ill, and they die... Yes that is going to bring on sorrow... you can be content.

(Isaiah 61:3)  To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

Not saying you will be happy in the hard times, or the heartache... but you can still be content... and in being content... there is the ability by God to find True Happiness...

As far as being Happy being single? I am content being single, because I know that if god has someone out there for me, then in HIS time I will find her, and all this 26 yrs of waiting will be worth it...!

If I never get married, than there must have been a reason why... either it wasn't His will... or I missed His will somewhere down the line!

But either way... I know I am able to be content... or happy doing what God has called me to do, whatever and wherever that may be.

But I also believe God knows the true desires of our heart, and hears the prayers that have been offered up for my spouse... whoever and wherever she is since I was 15!

At the moment, I remain to be content and happy as I am... it allows me to do things and go places that if I were married might be harder, although not impossible. It allows me time to prepare what I feel God has given to me as His plan for my life, and when the right gal comes along, her puzzle piece will fit into the picture of my life that God has given me!

I heartily disagree with you on this point, but I most likely will not reply on this specific topic again to avoid tension... but anyhow..

God Bless You..  Yoop :grin:

Rock on, dood!   :clap2:
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 07, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
Oh my...  rofl  these posts are absolutely insane.  *shakes her head*

Sippintea: methinks that perhaps your wedding favors should probably be those rain ponchos that fold up into itty bitty keychain sized pockets.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on July 30, 2011, 07:11:05 AM
Wow... what a reread... LOL
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: YooperYankDude on July 30, 2011, 07:19:27 AM
I guess if I honestly went back through that list and entered cost... it might amount to more than my $1000 estimate... LOL

Just the suit is $130!

I wish I had hired my guards... at least of the groomsmen would be on the list...

Just a piece of advise to any unmarried guys...

When the 3 guys of preference for your groomsmen all bail out on you... even when they previously agreed to be the groomsmen... NEVER EVER EVER choose the boyfriend of the MOH (maid of honor)to be your best man, and the brother of the bride (who you dont necessarily get along with very well on most occasions... even though you have made attempts...) to be a groomsmen... just because you can't think of anyone else to get to stand in, even if you rationalize it into the fact that your attempting to build a bridge of friendship... LOL, cause most likely the MOH and Best Man will break up before the wedding, and the brother will become an antagonist... ohh well... in 7 days, I will be married... lol

Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: taco_harvell on July 30, 2011, 10:30:33 AM
There's still time to elope........
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Roscoe on July 30, 2011, 12:01:16 PM
Quote from: taco_harvell on July 30, 2011, 10:30:33 AM
There's still time to elope........
*like*
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Melody on July 30, 2011, 01:40:05 PM
We actually eloped & had the ceremony later because things were so crazy. Only a coup people knew though. Best thing we ever did. Took all the stress out of it & it was like our oasis of secret knowledge amongst the chaotic stupidity.
Title: Re: Question for Singles
Post by: Roscoe on July 30, 2011, 01:56:38 PM
Quote from: MellowYellow on July 30, 2011, 01:40:05 PM
We actually eloped & had the ceremony later because things were so crazy. Only a coup people knew though. Best thing we ever did. Took all the stress out of it & it was like our oasis of secret knowledge amongst the chaotic stupidity.
We did that too, although because of slightly different circumstances. So now our true annivesary, Lou refers to as being my annivesary. Married wearing comfortable clothing, with just a handful of family present, in Bro. Papa's
(my pastor's) living room. Then, a month and a half later- her anniversary, celebrating the church wedding/ceremony she wanted. I was not near as comfortable with that one. :lol: