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Title: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 27, 2008, 10:59:48 PM
I was trying to phrase a simple question in the "Ask a Grump" thread and got to thinking that it might be better suited for a thread of its own.
(I'd still like to see the answer that may appear in Sir John's thread, though.)

So here is the question:

What exactly is considered "flirting"?
Through the years, my outgoing personality has gotten me into trouble, and people have thought that I was flirting when, in fact, I was simply being myself and being nice.  Oftentimes it has completely caught me off guard when I realized that certain guys thought I was flirting with them.  I thought I was just being a good friend!

When I *know* I'm flirting with a guy, I'm sure there's no question in his mind that I'm flirting.  Those times usually backfire a hundred fold, though, so it's a pretty rare thing for me to flirt (at least as I see myself flirting).  lol

On the flipside, once I figured out what I thought would get me labeled as a flirt, I tried to NOT exhbit those traits/behaviours when I was around particularly intriguing or interesting gentemen.  Unfortunately, those awesome guys that I was incredibly attracted to never got to see who I really was for fear that I would be labeled as "a flirt" and therefore unacceptable to these guys.
:reaction:

Is there a "good" type of flirting and a "bad" type of flirting?

I'm sure the discussion will float toward defining "a flirt" but I'd prefer not to go that road, as that topic is a bit separate.

The question is a serious one for me, and I'd love to have real answers from you all.

Elona  :-)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: SippinTea on February 27, 2008, 11:09:56 PM
 :lurk:

:beret:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on February 28, 2008, 01:45:07 AM
I had a guy once tell me he thought I was flirting because I was smiling while talking to him. Sad, huh?  I smile when I talk to my dad, too, (Or did anyway) I was talking about Stevebert. That makes me smile. DUHHHHH!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: upcchris on February 28, 2008, 01:58:55 AM
OMW I think I know what you mean...here's a question; do guys think you're flirting with them when you're just being nice? If that's the case then I know a few who thought I was flirting with them when I was just talking to them.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: apsurf on February 28, 2008, 07:36:06 AM
Actually, the answer to the last question posed by upcchris.....most guys would assume that there is a strong possiblity.   Especially if they already like you.   
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: upcchris on February 28, 2008, 09:11:23 AM
...oh dear... :worry:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: apsurf on February 28, 2008, 09:19:15 AM
but usually the overt signs, guys just don't clue in 90% of the time! LOL! I usually get it wrong every time....I think they are flirting when they aren't, and I miss it when they are.....
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on February 28, 2008, 09:49:35 AM
Quote from: upcchris on February 28, 2008, 09:11:23 AM
...oh dear... :worry:

Looks like pink wink went into shock!  :o
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: upcchris on February 29, 2008, 10:43:14 AM
Quote from: Sis on February 28, 2008, 09:49:35 AM
Quote from: upcchris on February 28, 2008, 09:11:23 AM
...oh dear... :worry:

Looks like pink wink went into shock!  :o

lol, it does too...aww poor pinkwink
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nerd on February 29, 2008, 04:56:20 PM
Quoteflirt - a: to behave amorously without serious intent b: to show superficial or casual interest or liking

This may or may not be of help. Here are some indicators to a guy that you are flirting with him, or are interested in him...

You stand close when you talk to him
You touch his arm or slap his arm if he makes a funny...
You laugh a lot at his funnies that aren't really that funny
you play with your hair
You hold near-constant eye contact and wiggle your eyebrows
You say, "Hey, I really like you"  :)

Any three of these used together is a sure thing...
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 05:38:42 PM
Good points, coolguy. Thanks for your input.

Hmmm...  I'm an eye contact kind of girl, myself.  Funny thing is, when I really like a guy, I find it harder to maintain eye contact because I'm afraid that he'll see in my eyes that I really like him.

As to standing close, I'm usually pretty aware of personal space, and I think I let the guy determine his comfort zone and try to stay within that.

I'm not a slapper.  It's exceedingly rare that I will even touch someone who isn't a great friend in the first place.  I HAVE noticed, however, that I can sometimes take a dim view of consistent slappers, as I was brought up not to hurt anyone, even if you think it's a "light slap."  My parents were both adamant about that.

My sense of humor is weird.  To some, a guy may seem "not that funny" when to me he's hysterically funny.  The converse is also true at times.  I'm not into shallow guys.  I enjoy word games and occasional verbal sparring.

My hair is up most of the time.  I very rarely catch myself playing with it.  When I do, I think, "do I like this guy?!"  lol  If I *do* like him, I stop playing with my hair.  If I don't, I toss it over my shoulder and think, "I'm not flirting; I'm just playing with my hair."

The "I like you"/"you're cool" type of statements just kind of come out when I really think that.  Doesn't mean I'm interested in a relationship with him...  *sigh*

Funny thing is that I don't keep ahold of this awareness of "flirting" when I'm with guys I'm not interested in.
THEN when I find someone I'm interested in, I check myself and think, "am I flirting??  Can't do THAT!  He might think I'm interested."

I'm weird.  *sigh*
No WONDER I'm confused about flirting.  lol

Note to self: Figure out if it's okay to show signs of flirting if you DO like someone.

Question for others: Are these signs turn-offs for guys?  Are they seen as "unladylike"?
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 07:28:34 PM
QuoteQuestion for others: Are these signs turn-offs for guys?  Are they seen as "unladylike"?

Nope. 

Coolguy, you forget The Small Smile. 
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Chseeads on February 29, 2008, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 07:28:34 PM
QuoteQuestion for others: Are these signs turn-offs for guys?  Are they seen as "unladylike"?

Nope. 

I second Tsoggi.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nerd on February 29, 2008, 07:41:37 PM
The nope passes unanimously.




Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: nwlife on February 28, 2008, 07:36:06 AM
Actually, the answer to the last question posed by upcchris.....most guys would assume that there is a strong possiblity.   Especially if they already like you.   

I think you may have hit on something here. I wonder if the way a person feels has anything to do with whether someone is flirting or not. I believe a lot of it is perception. I know of a man that often thinks that when he meets women it doesn't take much for him to think the woman is flirting or likes him, on the other hand I know a man that doesn't have a clue when women are flirting with him. I think that if a man wants a woman to be flirting with him, then he may read into things that aren't there and may label that woman as a flirt and then you have the jealous people who may accuse you of flirting because they like a person and are watching for flirts around that person to see if anyone else has the same interest.

RJ, you will never be able to know whether you are being flirtatious according to someone else's opinion because everyone has different ideas on that and everyone has to draw their own line.

I believe good flirting is when your intentions are pure and nobody gets hurt (within reason - not talking about insane jealous, protective types).
However, because good flirting makes a person feel good about theirself, I believe we have to be careful who we flirt with. I think if someone goes flirting with just anyone, you could be setting yourself up for trouble or something that could lead to a person being hurt.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:18:38 PM
Quote from: Chseeads on February 29, 2008, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 07:28:34 PM
QuoteQuestion for others: Are these signs turn-offs for guys?  Are they seen as "unladylike"?

Nope. 

I second Tsoggi.

Just for the record so we'll be sure we were all talking about the same thing:
I was referring to coolguy's original list when I asked that question.
Shall we have a re-vote?
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 08:15:05 PM
I know of a man that often thinks that when he meets women it doesn't take much for him to think the woman is flirting or likes him, on the other hand I know a man that doesn't have a clue when women are flirting with him.

Type One: ugh.  :-\ That type of guy just irritates me when he acts like he's God's gift to women.

Type Two: :cloud9: Unfortunately, that type is often so oblivious that you could smack him on the arm repeatedly and go into hysterics over his jokes while looking him straight in the eye and tickling his nose with your freshly curled locks and he'd leave thinking, "she was a nice person, but I'm not sure she would be interested in someone like ME."

:frustrated:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Envelope on February 29, 2008, 08:28:16 PM
RJ..........your last post cracked me up!! 

I've met "both" kinds!!  LOL

sharon
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 08:34:30 PM
No re-vote *grin*

The only thing that makes me gross out about getting flirted with is when some chick I don't even know in the slightest gets overtly sexual.  All I can think is, "I wonder if she has a husband somewhere..." and "Why do some women think they have to throw that around to get noticed?"

Guy secret:  The amount of permanent attraction caused by the female is inversely proportional to the power she gives away. 

Men with no principles or character might sleep with a floozy, but they will never give her what she really wants: a home with a man who loves and respects her.

On the other hand, women who ain't hos get the quality men.  End of story.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 07:28:34 PM
QuoteQuestion for others: Are these signs turn-offs for guys?  Are they seen as "unladylike"?

Nope. 

Coolguy, you forget The Small Smile. 

And what's the small smile?

Is that the one that could say either, "I'm enjoying this conversation" or "I think you're an idiot, but I'm enjoying you thinking that I'm flirting with you and I can't wait to leave"?
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:25:29 PM

Type One: ugh.  :-\ That type of guy just irritates me when he acts like he's God's gift to women.

Type Two: :cloud9: Unfortunately, that type is often so oblivious that you could smack him on the arm repeatedly and go into hysterics over his jokes while looking him straight in the eye and tickling his nose with your freshly curled locks and he'd leave thinking, "she was a nice person, but I'm not sure she would be interested in someone like ME."

:frustrated:

I agree wholeheartedly on both counts.  :great:


So you could behave the exact same way around both types and get two different reactions and each would probably label your behavior differently. Right?
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:46:59 PM
*Sigh*

Yup.  That's why it's so hard to figure out what to do.

I think what I genuinely need is the confidence in myself to just be ME around everyone and not care, even when it might mean that someone will think I'm a flirt. 

The guys who assume everyone is flirting with them will give me the small smug "you like me, don'tcha?" smile (*GAG*) and I can just slap 'em in the arm really hard and make sure that it hurts.  THEN he'll think that I'm REALLY interested, but *I* will know that I was just trying to make him PAY.

Problem is that the guys I might BE interested in might run away and think that I'm interested in the guy I just slapped on the arm.

ARGH!  Where's sis' hair-pulling-out smiley?!

Oh...  and don't get me started on those times that I've just been being myself and the guy out of nowhere brings up his wife in conversation.  I'm like, "did he think I was flirting with him?"  :-(
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 08:50:50 PM
QuoteAnd what's the small smile?

Youuuuuuuuuu know :D  Usually comes with a blush :)

QuoteOh...  and don't get me started on those times that I've just been being myself and the guy out of nowhere brings up his wife in conversation.  I'm like, "did he think I was flirting with him?" 

Nope.  Pre-emptive strike.  Usually b/c there may be physical attraction and he thinks he's doing you both a favor by setting out a boundary.  While I agree with this in principle, many guys are too clumsy to do it right.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 08:50:50 PM
QuoteAnd what's the small smile?

Youuuuuuuuuu know :D  Usually comes with a blush :)


Oh!  You mean the one that happens when SHE thinks the guy is flirting with HER!??!
THAT smile could mean she is interested, OR it may mean she's embarrassed by the attention coming from someone she's NOT interested in.

*sigh*  Why do we need thse games??!?!?!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 08:50:50 PM

QuoteOh...  and don't get me started on those times that I've just been being myself and the guy out of nowhere brings up his wife in conversation.  I'm like, "did he think I was flirting with him?" 

Nope.  Pre-emptive strike.  Usually b/c there may be physical attraction and he thinks he's doing you both a favor by setting out a boundary.  While I agree with this in principle, many guys are too clumsy to do it right.

It usually ends up making me feel really weird in the end.  I'm like...  WAS I flirting with a married guy?  What did I *DO* to make him THINK I was?!?!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
QuoteTHAT smile could mean she is interested, OR it may mean she's embarrassed by the attention coming from someone she's NOT interested in.

It's actually pretty easy to tell the difference.  Body language is usually pretty different there.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 09:03:41 PM
Maybe...  I'm not sure I'm convinced of that one.

Why can't things be easier?  Why can't the guy just walk up and say, "You're gorgeous.  You're intelligent.  How about a date?"
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:46:59 PM
*Sigh*

Yup.  That's why it's so hard to figure out what to do.

I think what I genuinely need is the confidence in myself to just be ME around everyone and not care, even when it might mean that someone will think I'm a flirt. 


Yeah, you definitely need to just be you around everyone, but you should care also. The difficulty is in drawing the line between trying to please everyone and acknowledging that it's not possible. Once you get that out of the way, then you can just do your best to make sure that your heart and intentions are right according to God's will for you and that your behavior is pleasing to Him. When that happens, you don't have to be concerned with what others think.


Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:46:59 PM

Problem is that the guys I might BE interested in might run away and think that I'm interested in the guy I just slapped on the arm.


A man that is right for you will not run away. If you trust God with providing you with a husband, then trust Him not to let the one he has for you run away.


Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:46:59 PM

ARGH!  Where's sis' hair-pulling-out smiley?!


Will this do?  :tearhair: LOL I just used her today.


Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:46:59 PM

Oh...  and don't get me started on those times that I've just been being myself and the guy out of nowhere brings up his wife in conversation.  I'm like, "did he think I was flirting with him?"  :-(

Don't worry about it. If he brought up his wife because he thinks you're flirting then just continue to be yourself and don't react to it. When he sees it didn't affect you, then he'll probably realize that you weren't flirting and if he did then he's probably Type #1 and there's nothing you can do about them except avoid them. On the other hand, he may just be bringing up his wife because he loves her or something you said or did made him think of her. Either way, you're ok on this one, so don't worry about it at all.  :thumbsup2:

Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
QuoteTHAT smile could mean she is interested, OR it may mean she's embarrassed by the attention coming from someone she's NOT interested in.

It's actually pretty easy to tell the difference.  Body language is usually pretty different there.



I know the smily you're talking about Tsalagi. It's almost not there and disappears as quickly as it appears then it looks like the girl is embarrassed about smiling. For me, it's one that comes from the heart. It can't be hidden, it can't be covered, it always comes out and is there before a girl even realizes it's there. As a matter of fact, that's the reason for the blush afterward.  She realizes that the smile came out from the inside and showed itself and she questions whether you noticed or not and partly wishes you did and partly wishes you didn't, then the blush. Not just anyone can touch my heart that way to make me smile like that and from here on out only one person will be able to bring that smile out from my heart.


Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 09:03:41 PM
Maybe...  I'm not sure I'm convinced of that one.

Why can't things be easier?  Why can't the guy just walk up and say, "You're gorgeous.  You're intelligent.  How about a date?"

Ego and fear of rejection. Besides, what fun would that be?  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 09:19:18 PM

Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 09:03:41 PM
Maybe...  I'm not sure I'm convinced of that one.

Why can't things be easier?  Why can't the guy just walk up and say, "You're gorgeous.  You're intelligent.  How about a date?"

Ego and fear of rejection. Besides, what fun would that be?  :biglaugh:

I think it has LOTS of potential for tons of fun!

*walks away pondering the image of guys just walking up to me and saying, "You're gorgeous.  You're intelligent.  How about a date?"*

:cloud9:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: SippinTea on February 29, 2008, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: coolguy on February 29, 2008, 04:56:20 PM
This may or may not be of help. Here are some indicators to a guy that you are flirting with him, or are interested in him...

You stand close when you talk to him
You touch his arm or slap his arm if he makes a funny...
You laugh a lot at his funnies that aren't really that funny
you play with your hair
You hold near-constant eye contact and wiggle your eyebrows
You say, "Hey, I really like you"  :)

Any three of these used together is a sure thing...


Uh oh. I'm in huge trouble then. I play with my hair a lot. I've tried to break myself of the habit, but I've done it since I was a toddler, and it hasn't been easy to break.  :-\  But just for the record... I do it when I'm A) very tired, B) stressed C) thinking too hard.

Blah. I'm gonna have to work harder at not doing it when there are guys around, obviously.

So.... Seth--if you see me playing with my hair in Indy, don't worry--I'm not flirting....I'm just exhausted from the flight. *grin*

Quote from: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
QuoteTHAT smile could mean she is interested, OR it may mean she's embarrassed by the attention coming from someone she's NOT interested in.

It's actually pretty easy to tell the difference.  Body language is usually pretty different there.


I know the smile you're talking about Tsalagi. It's almost not there and disappears as quickly as it appears then it looks like the girl is embarrassed about smiling. For me, it's one that comes from the heart. It can't be hidden, it can't be covered, it always comes out and is there before a girl even realizes it's there. As a matter of fact, that's the reason for the blush afterward.  She realizes that the smile came out from the inside and showed itself and she questions whether you noticed or not and partly wishes you did and partly wishes you didn't, then the blush.

I SO know what you mean. Those kinds of smiles... I really try to stop before they appear. And it's highly annoying to me that I can't always. But like you said--that's why there's a blush afterward.

I really, really, really don't like it when guys can tell what I'm thinking.  :-?

Quote from: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 09:03:41 PM
Why can't things be easier?  Why can't the guy just walk up and say, "You're gorgeous.  You're intelligent.  How about a date?"

Ego and fear of rejection. Besides, what fun would that be?  :biglaugh:

Oh, believe me! I'd think it was fun if God altered the eyes of some poor unsuspecting guy, and he thought I was gorgeous. *laugh* Of course, I'd also hope that his eyes wouldn't recover after a ring was on my finger.  :updown:

:beret:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 10:10:03 PM
Ahhhhh... the never ending circle of girls wanting to hear what the guys think, and guys afraid to speak it because they don't know the girl feels the same way, the girl not wanting to seem too forward the guy not wanting to feel the pain of rejection..... and round and round we go. I'm glad :surrender: and got off the merry-go-round.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 10:13:52 PM
Quote from: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 10:10:03 PM
:surrender:

COOL!

May I borrow that?!?!?!

:surrender:




:hypocrite:
(you said that'll get me off the merry-go-round?)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sister_Mom on February 29, 2008, 10:16:59 PM
Cute!!  :laughhard:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 10:45:45 PM
QuoteI know the smily you're talking about Tsalagi. It's almost not there and disappears as quickly as it appears then it looks like the girl is embarrassed about smiling. For me, it's one that comes from the heart. It can't be hidden, it can't be covered, it always comes out and is there before a girl even realizes it's there. As a matter of fact, that's the reason for the blush afterward.  She realizes that the smile came out from the inside and showed itself and she questions whether you noticed or not and partly wishes you did and partly wishes you didn't, then the blush. Not just anyone can touch my heart that way to make me smile like that and from here on out only one person will be able to bring that smile out from my heart.

:thumbsup2:

That's the one!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: upcchris on February 29, 2008, 10:50:41 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 08:50:50 PM
QuoteAnd what's the small smile?

Youuuuuuuuuu know :D  Usually comes with a blush :)


Oh!  You mean the one that happens when SHE thinks the guy is flirting with HER!??!
THAT smile could mean she is interested, OR it may mean she's embarrassed by the attention coming from someone she's NOT interested in.

*sigh*  Why do we need thse games??!?!?!

Emotional games....one of the things I love about being single is there are none.

Arrrgh I hate giving that smile....it's embarrassing, it's like, oh great now he knows I like him and seem like a right dill. I usuall can feel them coming so I try to think of something sad or something stressful to stop it showing.

Heaven forbid I give a guy any indication that I like him.

I tend to fidget when I'm nervous, embarrased or uncomfortable...or thinking, or a mix of all four, I reach over to tug my ear or I rub the bridge of my nose...it's wierd.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Amelia Bedelia on February 29, 2008, 11:13:31 PM
flirting is in the eye of the beholder

just be you

and resist the urge to be unfriendly for fear of being labeled a flirt for innocent friendliness  :roll:

Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 08:34:30 PM
On the other hand, women who ain't hos get the quality men.  End of story.
:roll:







Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sister_Mom on March 01, 2008, 12:22:56 AM
Quote from: Amelia Bedelia on February 29, 2008, 11:13:31 PM
flirting is in the eye of the beholder

just be you

and resist the urge to be unfriendly for fear of being labeled a flirt for innocent friendliness  :roll:



Exactly!  :great:  :great:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on March 01, 2008, 05:41:15 AM
Quote from: coolguy on February 29, 2008, 04:56:20 PM
Quoteflirt - a: to behave amorously without serious intent b: to show superficial or casual interest or liking

This may or may not be of help. Here are some indicators to a guy that you are flirting with him, or are interested in him...

You stand close when you talk to him
You touch his arm or slap his arm if he makes a funny...
You laugh a lot at his funnies that aren't really that funny
you play with your hair
You hold near-constant eye contact and wiggle your eyebrows
You say, "Hey, I really like you"  :)

Any three of these used together is a sure thing...


WOW! Rainbow did all that when we met. Should I be nervous? :yikes: 'cept she never said, "Hey I really like you" (http://easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-party-smileys-489.gif)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: sunlight on March 01, 2008, 06:52:36 AM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 29, 2008, 05:38:42 PM
Good points, coolguy. Thanks for your input.

Hmmm...  I'm an eye contact kind of girl, myself.  Funny thing is, when I really like a guy, I find it harder to maintain eye contact because I'm afraid that he'll see in my eyes that I really like him.

As to standing close, I'm usually pretty aware of personal space, and I think I let the guy determine his comfort zone and try to stay within that.

I'm not a slapper.  It's exceedingly rare that I will even touch someone who isn't a great friend in the first place.  I HAVE noticed, however, that I can sometimes take a dim view of consistent slappers, as I was brought up not to hurt anyone, even if you think it's a "light slap."  My parents were both adamant about that.

My sense of humor is weird.  To some, a guy may seem "not that funny" when to me he's hysterically funny.  The converse is also true at times.  I'm not into shallow guys.  I enjoy word games and occasional verbal sparring.

My hair is up most of the time.  I very rarely catch myself playing with it.  When I do, I think, "do I like this guy?!"  lol  If I *do* like him, I stop playing with my hair.  If I don't, I toss it over my shoulder and think, "I'm not flirting; I'm just playing with my hair."

The "I like you"/"you're cool" type of statements just kind of come out when I really think that.  Doesn't mean I'm interested in a relationship with him...  *sigh*

Funny thing is that I don't keep ahold of this awareness of "flirting" when I'm with guys I'm not interested in.
THEN when I find someone I'm interested in, I check myself and think, "am I flirting??  Can't do THAT!  He might think I'm interested."

I'm weird.  *sigh*
No WONDER I'm confused about flirting.  lol

Note to self: Figure out if it's okay to show signs of flirting if you DO like someone.

Question for others: Are these signs turn-offs for guys?  Are they seen as "unladylike"?

RJ- a lot of this is how i act/think as well... (except i am a physical person... I do the slapping, hugging, whatever if it seems appropriate) its easy to talk to someone when im not worried about making an impression... but ohh the stress when it matters in my head.

ohh well... lol. I'm glad you asked the question... I have been accused of flirting more than once... when i just mean to be nice. (and then, of course, there are the exceptions like you were talking about too.. :( ohh well)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Tsalagi on March 01, 2008, 07:19:18 AM
Quote from: Amelia Bedelia on February 29, 2008, 11:13:31 PM
flirting is in the eye of the beholder

just be you

and resist the urge to be unfriendly for fear of being labeled a flirt for innocent friendliness  :roll:

Quote from: Tsalagi on February 29, 2008, 08:34:30 PM
On the other hand, women who ain't hos get the quality men.  End of story.
:roll:


*Picks 'em up and rolls 'em back*

Here.  Youse may need these.

Unh! Hey!!  I feel good!  Ow!




Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: upcchris on March 01, 2008, 07:31:43 AM
Quote from: Amelia Bedelia on February 29, 2008, 11:13:31 PM
flirting is in the eye of the beholder

just be you

and resist the urge to be unfriendly for fear of being labeled a flirt for innocent friendliness  :roll:

I find that it's hard to fight the urge to be unfriendly, because I don't want to seem like a ditz. I usually have and overly serious bordering on unfriendly/scary expression on my face, so if a guy comes up to me even to talk, I'll admire his courage.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nelle on March 01, 2008, 07:32:46 AM
I'm a flirt, apparently. LOL... I just get along wonderfully with guys. I've learned to treat them all as a friend, and it'll happen when it needs to.


I also subscribe to the theory that flirting is in the eye of the beholder. :) haha...

A friend of mine is like "in love" with this girl from our church. He talks about her constantly.. and one night told me that HE thought that SHE knew HE liked him because SHE made eye contact with him. We were all like "OMW! Don't make eye contact with him ANYmore!" LOL.. Coz we didn't want him to think WE liked HIM! I think in his case, as well as sometimes for the rest of us, we read into the situation what we WANT to be there.

The feedback from the guys here was a pleasure to read. Thanks, males. :)


Above all you MUST be yourself. Quit worrying about what others think, and just be who God created you to be. The man you can't live without will be the one that fulfills your God-written love story.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on March 01, 2008, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: Sis on March 01, 2008, 05:41:15 AM
Quote from: coolguy on February 29, 2008, 04:56:20 PM
Quoteflirt - a: to behave amorously without serious intent b: to show superficial or casual interest or liking

This may or may not be of help. Here are some indicators to a guy that you are flirting with him, or are interested in him...

You stand close when you talk to him
You touch his arm or slap his arm if he makes a funny...
You laugh a lot at his funnies that aren't really that funny
you play with your hair
You hold near-constant eye contact and wiggle your eyebrows
You say, "Hey, I really like you"  :)

Any three of these used together is a sure thing...


WOW! Rainbow did all that when we met. Should I be nervous? :yikes: 'cept she never said, "Hey I really like you" (http://easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-party-smileys-489.gif)

Hey, Sis!
I really like you!
And Stevebert's cool, too!  :-)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: MelodyB on March 01, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
WOW...I wasnt reading this thread till just now, and there is some good stuff in here....Not that I need it.. :roll:

I can only think of one time fairly recently when I actually caught myself flirting...and everyone knew it I am sure. :smirk2: Ruby even knew it on IM that night when I got home, just by the way I talked about him. :smirk2:

That was an awesome night, and a bad one, cause I dont want him to know I was flirting. But it was so bad even I could see it. Luckily, he doesnt live in this town and I dont have to see him often.

BLAH!

Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on March 01, 2008, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on March 01, 2008, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: Sis on March 01, 2008, 05:41:15 AM
WOW! Rainbow did all that when we met. Should I be nervous? :yikes: 'cept she never said, "Hey I really like you" (http://easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-party-smileys-489.gif)

Hey, Sis!
I really like you!
And Stevebert's cool, too!  :-)

OH OH! :yikes:  Now I'm worried.  :laughhard:   :laughhard:   :laughhard:   :laughhard:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: SippinTea on March 01, 2008, 06:57:46 PM
Quote from: MelodyB on March 01, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
I can only think of one time fairly recently when I actually caught myself flirting...and everyone knew it I am sure. :smirk2: Ruby even knew it on IM that night when I got home, just by the way I talked about him. :smirk2:

Ohhh yeeeaaahhhhh. Did I ever! *snickers*

:beret:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: MelodyB on March 01, 2008, 10:51:11 PM
:smirk2:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Called_&_chosen on March 02, 2008, 03:50:12 AM


I was at Wall*Mart last ngiht and I was talking with one of the cashears ( I kind of know him) well I told him he smelled good.... any body that knows me knows I say that to people mostly guys but yeah...I thought of this thread ..............and I prey he did not think I was trying o flirt I mean he did not seem phased he said thanks and kind of played around with me so....


  ??? :pound: :laughhard: :roll: :freaky2: :teeth: :updown:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on March 02, 2008, 04:39:27 AM
Quote from: Called_&_chosen on March 02, 2008, 03:50:12 AM


I was at Wall*Mart last ngiht and I was talking with one of the cashears ( I kind of know him) well I told him he smelled good.... any body that knows me knows I say that to people mostly guys but yeah...I thought of this thread ..............and I prey he did not think I was trying o flirt I mean he did not seem phased he said thanks and kind of played around with me so....


  ??? :pound: :laughhard: :roll: :freaky2: :teeth: :updown:

Hmmm...  so he was flirting with you!??!?!?!?!?1
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Called_&_chosen on March 02, 2008, 06:49:12 AM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on March 02, 2008, 04:39:27 AM
Quote from: Called_&_chosen on March 02, 2008, 03:50:12 AM


I was at Wall*Mart last ngiht and I was talking with one of the cashears ( I kind of know him) well I told him he smelled good.... any body that knows me knows I say that to people mostly guys but yeah...I thought of this thread ..............and I prey he did not think I was trying o flirt I mean he did not seem phased he said thanks and kind of played around with me so....


  ??? :pound: :laughhard: :roll: :freaky2: :teeth: :updown:

Hmmm...  so he was flirting with you!??!?!?!?!?1

I don't really know.....i guess........not really ...I DON'T KNOW  :tearhair:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Newsman on March 02, 2008, 07:32:21 AM
Lady Short Hat Playa...sigh  :sadbounce:


John  :waving:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sister_Mom on March 02, 2008, 08:43:33 PM
Quote from: Nelle on March 01, 2008, 07:32:46 AM
The man you can't live without will be the one that fulfills your God-written love story.

I love this Nelle!!!  :clap: Can I keep it?  :grin:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: SippinTea on March 02, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: Sister_Mom on March 02, 2008, 08:43:33 PM
Quote from: Nelle on March 01, 2008, 07:32:46 AM
The man you can't live without will be the one that fulfills your God-written love story.

I love this Nelle!!!  :clap: Can I keep it?  :grin:

Hmmm....
It sounds great on paper. But where does that leave you when you _have_ to live without that man?

Single.


:beret:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: newkris on March 02, 2008, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: SippinTea on March 02, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: Sister_Mom on March 02, 2008, 08:43:33 PM
Quote from: Nelle on March 01, 2008, 07:32:46 AM
The man you can't live without will be the one that fulfills your God-written love story.

I love this Nelle!!!  :clap: Can I keep it?  :grin:

Hmmm....
It sounds great on paper. But where does that leave you when you _have_ to live without that man?

Single.


:beret:

yep.  exactly.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Newsman on March 03, 2008, 01:02:15 AM
   I disaagree, in part. It is great if it works out that you mean the person 'you can't live without.' But, I maintain there are couples where at least one of the two parties NEVER fell 'head over heels' in love with the other, but they have MADE a successful and, yes, _happy_ marriage.
  Of course, we can get back to the question of how usable is commentary/adviice on marriage from a single guy in his 40's, who has never been married?


John  :waving:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: SippinTea on March 03, 2008, 01:15:08 AM
Quote from: Newsman on March 03, 2008, 01:02:15 AM
But, I maintain there are couples where at least one of the two parties NEVER fell 'head over heels' in love with the other, but they have MADE a successful and, yes, _happy_ marriage.

*gasp* Like, the whole 'love is a choice' thing? And commitment matters? ;)

Okay, seriously.... I think you're absolutely right.

:beret:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nelle on March 03, 2008, 05:45:10 AM
Quote from: SippinTea on March 02, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: Sister_Mom on March 02, 2008, 08:43:33 PM
Quote from: Nelle on March 01, 2008, 07:32:46 AM
The man you can't live without will be the one that fulfills your God-written love story.

I love this Nelle!!!  :clap: Can I keep it?  :grin:

Hmmm....
It sounds great on paper. But where does that leave you when you _have_ to live without that man?

Single.


:beret:

You can use it if you want. :)


And... to the other part of the quote:

If you don't get that man you can't live without and you do subscribe to the belief that love is a choice - you can fall in love again with someone else. I don't think it's a 'do or die' situation there.

I'm still not certain where my belief fully lies.. whether it's in that God has someone for me, or that I'll choose someone to be with the rest of my life. But.. either way, love is always a choice and involves commitment. God doesn't MAKE us do things against our will. I believe that no matter who you fall in love with, that becomes your God-written love story. You chose to fall in love with that person and if you were to marry them, you have then formed a commitment with/to them.

As far as the whole destiny thing, I think I bank more on that I take everything to God in prayer and He will help me to make the best decision I can with what I have.


I'm also not sure why anyone would want to marry someone they didn't love unless it was an arranged marriage or something. I would think even if it were the likes of "I love her more today than I did the day we first wed." There has to be "head over heels love" somewhere there.. whether it's by your definition or not.


Babbling enough? haha..
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Called_&_chosen on March 03, 2008, 06:07:55 AM
Quote from: Newsman on March 02, 2008, 07:32:21 AM
Lady Short Hat Playa...sigh  :sadbounce:


John  :waving:

NOOOO......I was just being my self that all...you know the NOT conforming to other peoples expectations of you NOT masking your self just so people don't think or think something about you...  :updown:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 06:08:32 AM
Quote from: Called_&_chosen on March 02, 2008, 06:49:12 AM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on March 02, 2008, 04:39:27 AM
Quote from: Called_&_chosen on March 02, 2008, 03:50:12 AM


I was at Wall*Mart last ngiht and I was talking with one of the cashears ( I kind of know him) well I told him he smelled good.... any body that knows me knows I say that to people mostly guys but yeah...I thought of this thread ..............and I prey he did not think I was trying o flirt I mean he did not seem phased he said thanks and kind of played around with me so....


  ??? :pound: :laughhard: :roll: :freaky2: :teeth: :updown:

Hmmm...  so he was flirting with you!??!?!?!?!?1

I don't really know.....i guess........not really ...I DON'T KNOW  :tearhair:

When you tell a guy he "smells good" it means you have gotten close enough to "smell" him. "You smell good" is more personal than "wow, who's wearing the great cologne?!".

It definitely gets a guys attention. It's female attention that goes beyond "i recognize that brand of cologne". It probably was taken as a flirting thing (especially IF he thought you were kinda cute). 
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Babs on March 03, 2008, 06:09:39 AM
not always lol sometimes their cologne beats them to the room  :o
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 06:12:35 AM
I still believe that "You smell good" comes across differently ....as opposed to "AAGGGHHH, IT'S U !!! OPEN THE WINDOWS!!!"
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Babs on March 03, 2008, 06:13:33 AM
Quote from: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 06:12:35 AM
I still believe that "You smell good" comes across differently ....as opposed to "AAGGGHHH, IT'S U !!! OPEN THE WINDOWS!!!"

true that lol
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on March 03, 2008, 03:31:55 PM
Quote from: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 06:12:35 AM
I still believe that "You smell good" comes across differently ....as opposed to "AAGGGHHH, IT'S U !!! OPEN THE WINDOWS!!!"

I've said that to guys and Ethyl is right. Sometimes the smell beats them into the room. I've said it as a compliment, not to flirt.
Quote from: Mz. Ethyl on March 03, 2008, 06:13:33 AM
Quote from: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 06:12:35 AM
I still believe that "You smell good" comes across differently ....as opposed to "AAGGGHHH, IT'S U !!! OPEN THE WINDOWS!!!"

true that lol

Of course it's different. One means you REEK and the other is a compliment, not a pickup line!   :laughhard:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Called_&_chosen on March 03, 2008, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: Sis on March 03, 2008, 03:31:55 PM
Quote from: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 06:12:35 AM
I still believe that "You smell good" comes across differently ....as opposed to "AAGGGHHH, IT'S U !!! OPEN THE WINDOWS!!!"

I've said that to guys and Ethyl is right. Sometimes the smell beats them into the room. I've said it as a compliment, not to flirt.
Quote from: Mz. Ethyl on March 03, 2008, 06:13:33 AM
Quote from: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 06:12:35 AM
I still believe that "You smell good" comes across differently ....as opposed to "AAGGGHHH, IT'S U !!! OPEN THE WINDOWS!!!"

true that lol

Of course it's different. One means you REEK and the other is a compliment, not a pickup line!   :laughhard:

:laughhard: 

  YES........it was JUST a compliment that is all.......but i will say he is good looking............i tend to smell things most people don't ( I can be upstairs in my room and smell a candle on the table)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: InChristGirl on March 03, 2008, 06:04:03 PM
Quote from: Mz. Ethyl on March 03, 2008, 06:09:39 AM
not always lol sometimes their cologne beats them to the room  :o

Yup!
:cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: zizi90 on March 03, 2008, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: InChristGirl on March 03, 2008, 06:04:03 PM
Quote from: Mz. Ethyl on March 03, 2008, 06:09:39 AM
not always lol sometimes their cologne beats them to the room  :o

Yup!
:cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9:

:laughhard:

Truth.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: InChristGirl on March 03, 2008, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: zizi90 on March 03, 2008, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: InChristGirl on March 03, 2008, 06:04:03 PM
Quote from: Mz. Ethyl on March 03, 2008, 06:09:39 AM
not always lol sometimes their cologne beats them to the room  :o

Yup!
:cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9:

:laughhard:

Truth.



Or lingers after them :hypocrite: :hypocrite: :hypocrite: :hypocrite:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: zizi90 on March 03, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on March 03, 2008, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Newsman on March 03, 2008, 01:02:15 AM
   I disaagree, in part. It is great if it works out that you mean the person 'you can't live without.' But, I maintain there are couples where at least one of the two parties NEVER fell 'head over heels' in love with the other, but they have MADE a successful and, yes, _happy_ marriage.
  Of course, we can get back to the question of how usable is commentary/adviice on marriage from a single guy in his 40's, who has never been married?


John  :waving:

Hmmm...  This piece of revelatory advice leaves us to ask why you haven't allowed your pastor and his wife to work out that arranged marriage yet.

:eyebrow:


ICG:  You have something to share (besides lingering cologne scents)?
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: Called_&_chosen on March 03, 2008, 05:03:43 PM
  YES........it was JUST a compliment that is all.......but i will say he is good looking............i tend to smell things most people don't ( I can be upstairs in my room and smell a candle on the table)

mm hmm. ... . .. . sherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  :smirk:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Called_&_chosen on March 04, 2008, 12:21:19 AM
Quote from: TRAV on March 03, 2008, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: Called_&_chosen on March 03, 2008, 05:03:43 PM
  YES........it was JUST a compliment that is all.......but i will say he is good looking............i tend to smell things most people don't ( I can be upstairs in my room and smell a candle on the table)

mm hmm. ... . .. . sherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  :smirk:


I PROMISE...Scouts Honor  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Newsman on March 04, 2008, 01:33:16 AM
Lady Short Hat,

   I realky don't think of you as a Boy Scout.


John  :waving:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Called_&_chosen on March 04, 2008, 04:52:36 AM
Quote from: Newsman on March 04, 2008, 01:33:16 AM
Lady Short Hat,

   I realky don't think of you as a Boy Scout.


John  :waving:


I was a Girl Scout for 5 or 6 years NEVER a Boy Scout...some how being a Boy Scout was NEVER and option for me.  :roll: :teeth:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on March 04, 2008, 06:12:34 AM
Quote from: Called_&_chosen on March 04, 2008, 04:52:36 AM
Quote from: Newsman on March 04, 2008, 01:33:16 AM
Lady Short Hat,

   I realky don't think of you as a Boy Scout.


John  :waving:


I was a Girl Scout for 5 or 6 years NEVER a Boy Scout...some how being a Boy Scout was NEVER and option for me.  :roll: :teeth:

Hey! I was a boy scout for a long time. I didn't want to scout girls! They not kissable! Now boys!  That's something different.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: SippinTea on March 04, 2008, 06:19:28 AM
 :laughhard: Thanks, Sis. I needed that. ;)

:beret:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on March 04, 2008, 10:17:14 AM
*laughs with Ruby*

:laughhard:

You're a nutcase, Sis!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: newkris on March 04, 2008, 12:35:41 PM
amanda and sis, both honest reflections.

my scouthood will remian undisclosed.  (although . . . since my kids don't spy on me here . . i could say whatever i want . . .  :pwink: )
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Mrs. Yosemite on May 08, 2008, 11:19:54 PM
Comments of Dr. Mz. Yosemite.  :laughhard:

I dont know if my post will have anything much to do with your question .lol But I was just reading anyway.
Figured I'd throw my 2 cents in.  I know what you mean about guys thinking you are flirting.

I realized early in my teens that some guys/girls have a terribly high opinion of themselves or EGO if you will. Some think everybody they talk to just wants to wrap them up and take'em home. lol  I've seen those who were a terribly conceited.

The older I get the more fun it is talking to guys. lol (Dont ya'll git it wrong, I dont flirt around on my man) but getting older, I've learned more how to pick up on what people are  assuming.  Some guy's tend to flirt with married women the most, thats why I can post this. haha

When a guy does talk to me, or I get a suspicion that somebody is flirting with me, whether online or in person, I just say exactly what I think.  Now that I'm married and not concerned whether another man is impressed with me or not, Most of the time everything comes out hillarious to the person who wasnt expecting it!  If you already like to clown around, you have got some fun times ahead!  :lol:

I guess when I was single, I was too caught up in trying to make a good impression. I wasn't really myself. I was shy and backwards and always worried about my hair or a zit. Now that I'm older,  I don't really concern myself too much of what others think. I wish I had've just been comfortable all along. I could've had more fun in my teens.  :sofachair:

When I got comfortable just being my kookie self and stopped worrying about my hair & looks & hips, and whether some guy thought I was flirting or not...  :chairspin:

I ended up marrying the KOOLEST guy!  :thumbsup2: It took me till I was 35 to find somebody I thought I could stand living with, but it was worth the wait.  He's just as insane as I am! We laugh all the time. We can even burp & stuff in front of each other. (NOW THATS LUVVVV!) We can finish each other's sentences and sometimes say the exact same thing and the same time.  :great:

Being comfortable and not worrying about impressions, I started attracting guys who were more my type.  I think the same thing applies to men looking for women. I got me a good'un! Sorry ya'll single girls have to settle for what's left.  :teeth:

I hope my post was helpful to someone.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on May 08, 2008, 11:23:09 PM
Cool!  There IS still hope!  Of course, I turn 36 in August, so...  :o  Not much time left.  lol
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: sunlight on May 08, 2008, 11:25:52 PM
QuoteWhen a guy does talk to me, or I get a suspicion that somebody is flirting with me, whether online or in person, I just say exactly what I think.  Now that I'm married and not concerned whether another man is impressed with me or not, Most of the time everything comes out hillarious to the person who wasnt expecting it!  If you already like to clown around, you have got some fun times ahead! 

haha! I'm single and i already do this! hehe! It does suprise some people.... but its a trait i got from my mom... lol!

QuoteWe can even burp & stuff in front of each other.
sigh, too cool, maybe one day someone wont be scared off by my burp... :lol:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Mrs. Yosemite on May 08, 2008, 11:32:03 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on May 08, 2008, 11:23:09 PM
Cool!  There IS still hope!  Of course, I turn 36 in August, so...  :o  Not much time left.  lol

Well I made Yosemite wait 5 years before I married him. I was gonna make sure I was planning my picnic on a good weather day. haha We married two days before I turned 40. So you got plenty of time!! I think the longer you wait the better spouse you'll have. I think women in their 30's and 40's are more sure of what they want and what they DO NOT WANT.  Usually end up choosing a better spouse.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on May 08, 2008, 11:43:49 PM
I DO know what I DON'T want now.  lol  *nod*  That's for SURE.  As to what I DO want now...  The jury is still out on a few things.  We'll see what GOD wants.  I often find myself kind of throwing my hands up in the air and saying, "Lord, YOU decide!"  lol  I think He'll pick a good one.

Maybe I *DO* believe in "arranged marriages" after all.  :-)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Mrs. Yosemite on May 09, 2008, 01:12:22 AM
well if you do burp and he says, "Thats my girl!" You'll know you've arrived. hahaha  :laughhard: Just Kidding. You will have gotten yourself a genuine redneck.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on May 09, 2008, 02:11:04 AM
Quote from: Mrs. Yosemite on May 09, 2008, 01:12:22 AM
well if you do burp and he says, "Thats my girl!" You'll know you've arrived. hahaha  :laughhard: Just Kidding. You will have gotten yourself a genuine redneck.

:laughat:  Girl, you're making me laugh out loud and Stevebert thinks I've lost my mind. That's ok I only had half of one when we met. LOL
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: apsurf on May 09, 2008, 06:49:02 AM
Quote from: sunlight on May 08, 2008, 11:25:52 PM
QuoteWhen a guy does talk to me, or I get a suspicion that somebody is flirting with me, whether online or in person, I just say exactly what I think.  Now that I'm married and not concerned whether another man is impressed with me or not, Most of the time everything comes out hillarious to the person who wasnt expecting it!  If you already like to clown around, you have got some fun times ahead! 

haha! I'm single and i already do this! hehe! It does suprise some people.... but its a trait i got from my mom... lol!

QuoteWe can even burp & stuff in front of each other.
sigh, too cool, maybe one day someone wont be scared off by my burp... :lol:


hmmm.....I wonder  *gets out the video recorder*
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Mrs. Yosemite on May 09, 2008, 04:31:03 PM
I like your avatar nwlife.

On another subject that doesnt really go with this thread.  I know I'm probably not suppose to be on this thread since I'm married.  But I get a kick out of reading stuff ya'll post!  I like thinking back on the stuff I went thru when I was single and reading about your ordeals.

I dont have all the answers, but I can remember some things I could've done differently.
I was wondering about all of you single ladies, if you had been thru this ordeal that I am about mention.  It was something I used to deal with alot before I met my husband.

Think of how many times you've met a guy you think is kinda cute; thought it might be a potential good date so you give him your number. (You already know he was interested or he wouldnt have asked for your number.) 

And before the end of the week, he has called more than two or three times. He calls and text you and just 'worries the horns off of a billygoat'.   He seems needy and clingy without a life of his own. You feel turned off and wish you hadnt gave him your number. And you think, hmmm there he/she is again. I'll just let it ring.

Thats just something I went thru when I was single.  Just wondering how many of you single folks have been there and done that.  I knew this girl who kept calling her boyfriend and I thought to myself,  man that has got to be driving him crazy. 
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: UPC_gurl_4_God on May 09, 2008, 05:22:43 PM
I don't post here often..but i love this topic.

I know about this clingy thing..I have a friend who dated this guy, and she called him a billion times a day.  All i could think is, "how in the world could they still have something to talk about?"  They broke up after 3 months.  I think they ran out of things to say.  I stay with my Grandma a lot...She always says that girls should never call guys.  She says it's they guys place to call the girls.  But i'm the type that is very straight foward.  If I have something to say, I just say it.  If i need to call a guy, then I just do it.  If iI like a guy, I just tell him.  Also, I'm not really good with flirting.  I try to flirt sometimes, but I just feel stupid when i try to act like the flirty girl.  But i'm also very picky about the guys I chose to date.  If I like a guy, everything just comes very very natural when i'm with him.  But i'm only 19.  I'm not looking for someone to settle down with.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Mrs. Yosemite on May 09, 2008, 05:35:22 PM
My grandma always told me I should never call a guy too. While I dont think there is anything wrong with calling a guy maybe 'once'.  I wouldnt call him any more than I had to. You must resist the urge to call. I found out the hard way that mamaw was right.

(guys are natural born hunters and some guys have the need to feel the thrill of the chase)  but they hate girls who play "hard to get".  I think they like a girl who lets them take the lead. They want you to be genuine, settled, friendly, intelligent and so on.  Not an over eager, jabbering, giggling hiena that I've seen girls do.

When I was 18, I remember falling head over heels with a guy named Paul.  I mean, I had it so bad I wouldve ate a bug to get his attention! He finally came around and asked me for my number. We went out, had a great time. He wanted to go out again.

A couple days rocked on and I didnt hear from him. I started to panic. ( NEVER GET IN A HURRY) So I called him and his mom said he wasnt home. So I called later that evening. He seemed to be in a hurry to go.  Well needless to say, Paul didnt seem to have much interest afterall. And I didnt do anything. Just call.

I decided to take Mamaw's advice. When I met the guy I am married to now, We swapped numbers and I absolutely resisted the urge to call him. It almost killed me, but I did not pick the phone up not one time. When you want the guy to call so bad, it seems like a miserable eternity. But you must resist. 

Never grab the phone up on the first ring. You don't want him to know that he was so almighty important that you were sitting around waiting for him. Never talk about your ex's, or gossip about other girls, or go into drama.
Keep him talking about himself.

Each time he called I was really nice and glad to hear from him. When we hung up. I threw the ball back in his court. This went on for about 2 or 3 weeks. By that time, it was a green light! I felt that it was ok to call him.

If you call them and they seem in a hurry, you wind up getting your feelings hurt and read too far into it. When you wait for them to call you, you know that he has made time to talk to you and is thinking about you. But dont stay on the phone too long. Always leave him wanting more. You want your voice to be music to his ears.

Once you get him 'reeled in' , he'll be hooked. Then you can call him when you want without scaring him off. This was what your grandmother probably meant.

If its just a guy you like for a friend only, I'd say it's alright to call him.

If a man you like is worried over the fact that you haven't called. It's a good thing.  It's good for them to WORRY a little bit. lol  Makes them that much more desperate to talk to you. After all, why should you do all the worrying?

Mrs. Yo

(It may not work on every guy, but it worked on mine. hehe ( I cant wait to see what big remark he has to say about this post)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on May 09, 2008, 07:49:41 PM
Good solid advice for sure.  I've blown it more than a few times by being too "available."  :roll:
Of course, now that I look back at those guys, I'm glad I missed the "golden opportunity" with some of them.

It's strange at times, the balance you need to try to strike in order for a guy to feel comfortable enough to realize he's really interested:
Available - but not ALL the time
Interested, but not TOO interested
Busy, but not TOO busy
Emotional, but not OVERLY emotional
Dependent, but not COdependent
Independent yet weak
Fragile but strong
Beautiful yet tough
:reaction:



And I agree with my Mom's advice (at least most of the time).  Don't call him.  Let him call you.  Unless it's a well- established "just friends" thing, then I try to avoid just picking up the phone and calling a guy - especially if I'm interested!

Good GRIEF.  No WONDER I'm still single.  There are too many rules to the dating game!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Mrs. Yosemite on May 09, 2008, 08:12:10 PM
HA! RJ You Are A Killer !!  :laughhard: I know what you mean. And men fuss because women are so hard to figure out!

I remember when I first met my husband,  I didn't answer my phone a couple of times. (just to appear "not too available".  MAN, that was terrible! I must have dived  into a pack of oreos cause I was dying to answer the phone.   I waited about 2 hours and called him back, but kept it short.
My heart was pounding so bad, I must have sounded like I was jogging. I would like to ad that if you want to talk to the guy, just go ahead and answer the phone. If a guy thinks he's being 'played', that'll be the end of everything.

I thought, They aint no way Mamaw would possibly know about all of this.  I just figured that girls/guys were all different now, and all those rules only applied back in her day.

Found out it still works. Some may see it as playing mind games.  But in this new society where most girls are more straightforward,  I think guys are still looking for a woman like no other.  I dont know. I'm not a guy. My goofy advice dont count for much.

But you are hillarious!   :rofl:

Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: zizi90 on May 09, 2008, 09:11:52 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on May 09, 2008, 07:49:41 PM

And I agree with my Mom's advice (at least most of the time).  Don't call him.  Let him call you.  Unless it's a well- established "just friends" thing, then I try to avoid just picking up the phone and calling a guy - especially if I'm interested!


I totally agree with the don't call thing...that's what I've always believed. But if you have to call a guy (a friend, not someone you've exchanged numbers with or anything) cause you have to pass on a message, or something trivial like that, that doesn't count right?
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: TRAV on May 09, 2008, 09:42:25 PM
Define flirting.

ok.

When a guy says to a girl, "I'm really diggin the way that dress showcases your God given assets. And what a beautiful smile you have."

:freaky2:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on May 09, 2008, 10:05:59 PM
*curtsies*

Why, thank you, Trav.   :oops:

You're too kind.

I won't be able to call you right away, though.  You'll have to call me first, and then I might not answer.  If I *do* happen to answer, I'll be really busy and only have a minute to talk.  Or I might be talking with another "friend" of any of the three genders (is that mysterious enough, Mrs. Yo?).
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nerd on May 09, 2008, 10:09:29 PM
QuoteOr I might be talking with another "friend" of any of the three genders

:eyebrow:

Uh...
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on May 09, 2008, 10:10:59 PM
Remember: I live close to San Francisco, Aaron.  I've seen 'em!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nerd on May 09, 2008, 10:14:40 PM
Yeah, better you than me. lol

Houston's bad enough.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: MelodyB on May 09, 2008, 10:15:28 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on May 09, 2008, 10:10:59 PM
Remember: I live close to San Francisco, Aaron.  I've seen 'em!


:spitlaugh:


THAT Darlin'...was hilarious!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: yosemite on May 09, 2008, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on May 09, 2008, 10:05:59 PM
*curtsies*
I won't be able to call you right away, though.  You'll have to call me first, and then I might not answer.  If I *do* happen to answer, I'll be really busy and only have a minute to talk.  Or I might be talking with another "friend" of any of the three genders (is that mysterious enough, Mrs. Yo?).

THats funny! But you CAN go overboard with the mysterious thing. That would be a turn off too.  People catch on to stuff like that quickly. Theres really just no way you can get it right. Only God's help.lol

I think guys try to pull the same thing when they ask for your number and then 3 or 4 days go by and they havent called.  Im glad I'm married.   I'd hate to have to go back to being single. lol I got so tired of that jigsaw puzzle.  :biglaugh:

mrs.yo made a mistake when i wasn't signed out and got on here jabbering..LOL what was said here aint me.  thnx yo
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on May 10, 2008, 12:06:14 AM
Quote from: coolguy on May 09, 2008, 10:09:29 PM
QuoteOr I might be talking with another "friend" of any of the three genders

:eyebrow:

Uh...

Reminds me of a joke from grade school....

A teacher asked a little boy how many sexes there were.  He said "Three"

Teacher asked, "Three? How did you come to that number?"

The little boy said, "Well, there's the boy sex, and there's the girl sex, and there are insects!"
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: newkris on May 10, 2008, 06:48:44 AM
i think i'll just be myself and if that's flirty, then . . . i guess it just is.

i don't think i can remember all these rules.

being single, by the way, is not a bad gig. 
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: apsurf on May 10, 2008, 06:55:50 AM
It's bad only when both of my moms nag me about getting married and giving them grandkids! :smirk2:

(just a note, I was given up for adoption as a baby, so birth mom, and now adopted mom....)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on May 10, 2008, 07:04:19 AM
Brandon: Wow!  And I thought it was bad enough with just my Dad asking about grandkids.  :o

Sis: :laughhard:

Mel: Trust me.  There's one that works at one of my favorite ice cream places in the city.  (S)he acts and dresses like a woman and even sounds much like a woman, but the adam's apple is a dead give-away.  (S)he isn't really a she OR a he...  kind of... 

Quote from: yosemite on May 09, 2008, 10:55:35 PMTHats funny! But you CAN go overboard with the mysterious thing. That would be a turn off too. 
:reaction:
How does ANYONE ever figure all this out?!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: MelodyB on May 10, 2008, 07:15:14 AM
You dont...you leave it to God, and He figures it out for you.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: apsurf on May 10, 2008, 07:28:06 AM
Let's see, I had my dad, my grandpa and stepdad (When they were alive)...my mom, birth mom, grandma, sister, who push me now.  
There are also several pastors who also apparently think I should be ready to have grandkids as well.   :smirk2:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: newkris on May 10, 2008, 01:15:26 PM
well, brandon, i can tell that you grandkids are MUCH more fun than kids so .  . .if you can just hold out a little longer . . you'll find that the women in your age group will be grandmothers and you can skip the whole middle step!

:thumbsup2:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: apsurf on May 10, 2008, 01:32:04 PM
newsman did mention to me a grandmother he knew that was single....
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: TRAV on May 10, 2008, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: nwlife on May 10, 2008, 01:32:04 PM
newsman did mention to me a grandmother he knew that was single....

ouch.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nerd on May 10, 2008, 04:47:02 PM
 :o

What big eyes you have, grandma...

Then wink.  ;)


Now THAT'S flirting.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Tsalagi on May 10, 2008, 04:52:13 PM
Quote from: TRAV on May 10, 2008, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: nwlife on May 10, 2008, 01:32:04 PM
newsman did mention to me a grandmother he knew that was single....

ouch.

ouch dittos.

***

Once there was an ol' grampa man out fishin' in his john boat when he heard a little voice down in the water.  He looked and beheld a frog swimmin' alongside the boat, so he stopped to talk a bit. 

"What's a talking frog doin' all the way out here?", he asked.

"Oh, I'm not really a frog, I'm a beautiful princess under an evil spell" the frog replied, "if you kiss me, I'll turn back into a beautiful princess and we can get married."

Well, gramps thought about it for a bit, then he reached over the side, gently scooped up the frog and placed it on the seat beside him.

Then he went back to fishin'.

"Well?!" said the frog, "aren't you going to kiss me?"

To which he replied...

"Honey, at my age I'd rather have a talking frog."

Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on May 10, 2008, 04:57:48 PM
:laughat:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: yosemite on May 10, 2008, 07:21:20 PM
i'll make this comment. when mrs.yo and i hooked up she didnt follow any of this either except she didnt call me untill the relationship was established. she and i both were adults at this time to so the game playing thing (i think) doesn't apply. i think it is more of a chemistry thing and to have something in common is a plus. a christian foundation,since of humor,and activities that each are excited to participate in. as an adult the game playing is an insult,or at least it is to me. cause if i had a feeling i had been done this way i would have walked away. for teens, (this is a whole new ballgame)  i can see these kind of games being legit and mrs.yo makes good points on it,but i cant see adults using the same practice. just be yourself !  -yo

p.s. i love my wife with all my heart. she completes me in a way no one else on earth can. this cant be planned or generated from scratch,it is god given!!!!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on May 11, 2008, 07:36:54 AM
games!?!?!?!?!  We have to play GAMES now?!?!?!?!

:reaction:

MORE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!

:reaction:



p.s. I DO agree that God makes the decision.  I know He is in control.  I post the vast majority of my singles lamentations tongue in cheek because I enjoy seeing the humor in the whole relationship thing.
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: newkris on May 11, 2008, 01:04:06 PM
Quote from: Tsalagi on May 10, 2008, 04:52:13 PM
***

Once there was an ol' grampa man out fishin' in his john boat when he heard a little voice down in the water.  He looked and beheld a frog swimmin' alongside the boat, so he stopped to talk a bit. 

"What's a talking frog doin' all the way out here?", he asked.

"Oh, I'm not really a frog, I'm a beautiful princess under an evil spell" the frog replied, "if you kiss me, I'll turn back into a beautiful princess and we can get married."

Well, gramps thought about it for a bit, then he reached over the side, gently scooped up the frog and placed it on the seat beside him.

Then he went back to fishin'.

"Well?!" said the frog, "aren't you going to kiss me?"

To which he replied...

"Honey, at my age I'd rather have a talking frog."



i can relate.  a talking frog would be very nice . .  .entertaining enough that i could get some time on oprah, maybe a book deal to take care of my finances.  of course, i'd have to travel with the talking frog.

i'm thinkin' that's a REALLY good gig.

let me know if you come along one.  :pwink:  just don't kiss the frog . .  .whatever you do . .  .
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: RainbowJingles on May 12, 2008, 02:48:34 AM
No frog-kissing??!??!??!  Man!  And here I thought I had just stumbled upon a great new hobby!

*sigh*

Back to the drawing board

... but I can't draw!!!!!  :sadbounce:
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on May 12, 2008, 03:27:29 AM
I had some tiny little plastic frogs. I bought some little plastic boxes and labeled it "Hansome prince kit."
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nerd on May 12, 2008, 06:08:21 AM
What'd Stevebert think of that?

:eyebrow:

lol
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Sis on May 12, 2008, 12:20:12 PM
Quote from: coolguy on May 12, 2008, 06:08:21 AM
What'd Stevebert think of that?

:eyebrow:

lol


I didn't kiss any, I was sellin' them!
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: Nerd on May 12, 2008, 04:22:22 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Define Flirting
Post by: MelodyB on May 12, 2008, 05:34:41 PM
Back on topic here...I caught a fine example of flirting this morning...on our very own board... :eyebrow:

Quote from: Chinadoll on May 12, 2008, 02:02:58 PM
*shakes head at lack of scruff then perches herself on a rock and starts brushing her almost raven colored hair*

Nai


:hypocrite:


;)