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Title: What David Sang About
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 07, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
Just a thought...

Okay...  sometimes when reading Psalms, I find some very interesting things.  I know that David didn't write every chapter, but there are some chapters that nearly make me laugh when I think of putting them to music.

Has anyone else ever paused to think about this?

My mother and father have forsaken me...

Kill my enemies, Lord...

With no disrespect intended, I wonder if David was perhaps seen as crazy by more than just his wife at times?  Kind of like those cutting edge songwriters of our day?

Anyone else notice any Psalms like that?
Can you imagine how they would sound if they were modernized, set to music, and sang in church?
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: taco_harvell on April 07, 2011, 10:44:05 PM
Psalm 35 came to mind when I read this. I just can't picture using parts of it in worship service.  lol

Psalm 35

4Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that devise my hurt.

5Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the LORD chase them.

6Let their way be dark and slippery: and let the angel of the LORD persecute them.

7For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul.

8Let destruction come upon him at unawares; and let his net that he hath hid catch himself: into that very destruction let him fall.



Met a new convert who told me he was praying Psalm 35 over his enemies. When he said it all I could think was this guy really wants to get rid of his enemies. He had a run in with the police before getting saved and one cop was kind of harassing him so he was praying it over the police too. I told him we need some of the police so please don't pray it over all of them. lol
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: Lynx on April 07, 2011, 11:01:32 PM
Different times, different measures.  People were all the time overthrowing the ruling government by force and if you wanted to kill someone bad enough a lot of times you could.  Here in USA most of us don't have any of the problems that caused that psalm. 

I can imagine someone in a third world country today praying something like that, and the prayer being spiritually justifiable before God.
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: Babs on April 07, 2011, 11:15:39 PM
Love the thread RJ!

I would imagine a GP choir singing most of these by heart, together in harmony lol
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: The Purple Fuzzy on April 08, 2011, 01:55:06 AM
With Seth as choir director. ;)
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: Babs on April 08, 2011, 02:02:27 AM
And can call it "sing-a-longs with Seth" something to hate all with lol
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 08, 2011, 04:52:56 AM
Quote from: Babs on April 07, 2011, 11:15:39 PM
Love the thread RJ!

I would imagine a GP choir singing most of these by heart, together in harmony lol

Thanks, Barb.  Just made me think for sure!  :-)
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: Niki on April 08, 2011, 08:34:34 AM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on April 07, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
Just a thought...

Okay...  sometimes when reading Psalms, I find some very interesting things.  I know that David didn't write every chapter, but there are some chapters that nearly make me laugh when I think of putting them to music.

Has anyone else ever paused to think about this?

My mother and father have forsaken me...

Kill my enemies, Lord...

With no disrespect intended, I wonder if David was perhaps seen as crazy by more than just his wife at times?  Kind of like those cutting edge songwriters of our day?

Anyone else notice any Psalms like that?
Can you imagine how they would sound if they were modernized, set to music, and sang in church?

There actually is a song with one of those lines in it. A black gospel song from the 80s. It's a great song.

"When my mother and father forsake me,
Then the Lord will take me up.
When I need some help,
Can't call nobody else,
Then the Lord will take me up."

:)
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: Chseeads on April 08, 2011, 02:03:57 PM
Places, everyone!  Strike up the band!

/me gets his little baton thingy out to wave and point and direct the choir....  :P



My friend Tom from the Nuthouse attends the Reformed Presbyterian Church here in town, and the ONLY songs that they sing in church are the Psalms.  They are ALL set to tunes.  They don't play musical instruments either, it's all acapella. 
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: Melody on April 08, 2011, 02:24:59 PM
Some of those things I can't even pray. Perhaps cause we are in a dispensation of grace?
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 08, 2011, 06:17:54 PM
Goodness, Seth.  That would be...  wow.
So what do they do with the "...hymns and spiritual songs" part of the verse?

Niki: I know there's another oldie...  "without a father; without a mother; I have to make this journey all alone" and others.
But to set some of those entire Psalms to music and sing them...  well, you could throw yourself into depression if you put some of them on repeat.

MY: Well, there are some indeed where Jesus kind of negated what David was doing.
"You have heard that it has been said..."
and then He commanded to love your enemies and do good to them.
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: taco_harvell on April 08, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
You know in truth David wrote the worlds first Operas. Operas are usually a story of tragedy and sometimes triumph set to music. Clearly David was able to do that in some of these Psalms.

o·pe·ra Noun
1. A dramatic work in one or more acts, set to music for singers and instrumentalists.
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: MsJennJenn on April 08, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Quote from: taco_harvell on April 08, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
You know in truth David wrote the worlds first Operas. Operas are usually a story of tragedy and sometimes triumph set to music. Clearly David was able to do that in some of these Psalms.

o·pe·ra Noun
1. A dramatic work in one or more acts, set to music for singers and instrumentalists.

Makes sense to me! lol
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: Chseeads on April 08, 2011, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on April 08, 2011, 06:17:54 PM
Goodness, Seth.  That would be...  wow.
So what do they do with the "...hymns and spiritual songs" part of the verse?


I went to a Christmastime service with him once there....it was quite strange.  lol 

I think maybe they take a little license with the arrangement and maybe will repeat a refrain or something here and there, that sort of thing....  Don't quote me on that though. 

One of the pastors there kind of freaked out at the little dinner afterwards when he was talking to me and found out I was a Pentecostal. lol  I can't remember exactly, but I think he said something about us being loud or something like that. lol
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 08, 2011, 08:35:04 PM
Pentecostals?  Loud?  Who?  Where?
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: RainbowJingles on April 08, 2011, 08:35:35 PM
You know, Psalms WOULD definitely make for some interesting opera!
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: Chseeads on April 08, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: RainbowJingles on April 08, 2011, 08:35:04 PM
Pentecostals?  Loud?  Who?  Where?

Must've been a rumor he heard. ;)
Title: Re: What David Sang About
Post by: The Cold Water Kid on April 20, 2011, 04:57:44 AM
Good post; it makes you think! Isn't it interesting that David didn't sing about his hatred for the devil, but we do? I suppose when we vent our spleen in song it is against Satan and his devils.