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Title: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: kkay on October 08, 2008, 08:02:43 PM
I've heard this time and time again. My mom's pastor believes that he is the Anti-Christ.

Any opinions?
Does anyone have proof from Revelation?
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: bishopnl on October 08, 2008, 08:40:08 PM
I believe Obama is the anti christ for the following reasons.

First, study revelations chapter 13, where it talks about the beast who comes out of the sea.  First notice where he comes from.  The sea.  Obama was born in Hawaii, which is an island nation in the middle of where?  the ocean i.e. sea (also a volcanic island which sprang up "out of the sea"). 

Second, notice that the beast has 10 horns.  I believe these represent the top 10 influential Hollywood people who support Obama's candidacy...note the resemblance...Horns...Hollywood (both begin w/Ho).  Jennifer Aniston, Robert DeNiro, Chris Rock, Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johanson George Clooney, Ben Affleck, The Kennedy women (Caroline/Maria Shriver) will.i.am, and of course, oprah.  It also has seven heads.  who are the "heads" of these influential actors and stars?  The studio's/corporations.  The Big Six, of course, Time Warner, Viacom, Disney, Sony, GE/Vivendi, and News Corp.  Wait, but the prophecy says 7....and one of the heads suffered a wound from which it almost didn't recover, but it was healed and the world wondered after it.  Makes sense when you remember that New Line Cinema recently underwent financial hardship but was bought and brought in under Time Warner's corporate umbrella...it was "healed", so to speak.

So far, we've noted the beast:

A.  comes from the sea, (i.e. Hawaii)
B. Has 10 horns (his Hollywood promoters which are both financing and running his propaganda--they are the ones who are doing the dirty work)
C. Has 7 heads (seven major studios/media corporations which control the promoters and the news media)

I may have to continue this study later...time constraints are weighing me down...but observe what the beast was "given."  A MOUTH.  What is Barack Obama's biggest asset?  His big MOUTH.


Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Scott on October 09, 2008, 12:06:55 AM
He is not the Anti Christ. He is married.

The person most commonly considered the Anti Christ will be a man who does not know the desire of women.

Dan 11:37

Young's Literal Translation
And unto the God of his fathers he doth not attend, nor to the desire of women, yea, to any god he doth not attend, for against all he magnifieth himself

King James Bible
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

American King James Version
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

American Standard Version
Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall magnify himself above all.

Bible in Basic English
He will have no respect for the gods of his fathers or for the god desired by women; he will have no respect for any god: for he will put himself on high over all.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And he shall make no account of the God of his fathers: and he shall follow the lust of women, and he shall not regard any gods: for he shall rise up against all things.

Darby Bible Translation
And he will not regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women; nor regard any +god: for he will magnify himself above all.

English Revised Version
Neither shall he regard the gods his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Webster's Bible Translation
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

World English Bible
Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall magnify himself above all.

Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Bliss on October 09, 2008, 03:01:06 AM
Quote from: bishopnl on October 08, 2008, 08:40:08 PM
I believe Obama is the anti christ for the following reasons.

First, study revelations chapter 13, where it talks about the beast who comes out of the sea.  First notice where he comes from.  The sea.  Obama was born in Hawaii, which is an island nation in the middle of where?  the ocean i.e. sea (also a volcanic island which sprang up "out of the sea"). 

Second, notice that the beast has 10 horns.  I believe these represent the top 10 influential Hollywood people who support Obama's candidacy...note the resemblance...Horns...Hollywood (both begin w/Ho).  Jennifer Aniston, Robert DeNiro, Chris Rock, Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johanson George Clooney, Ben Affleck, The Kennedy women (Caroline/Maria Shriver) will.i.am, and of course, oprah.  It also has seven heads.  who are the "heads" of these influential actors and stars?  The studio's/corporations.  The Big Six, of course, Time Warner, Viacom, Disney, Sony, GE/Vivendi, and News Corp.  Wait, but the prophecy says 7....and one of the heads suffered a wound from which it almost didn't recover, but it was healed and the world wondered after it.  Makes sense when you remember that New Line Cinema recently underwent financial hardship but was bought and brought in under Time Warner's corporate umbrella...it was "healed", so to speak.

So far, we've noted the beast:

A.  comes from the sea, (i.e. Hawaii)
B. Has 10 horns (his Hollywood promoters which are both financing and running his propaganda--they are the ones who are doing the dirty work)
C. Has 7 heads (seven major studios/media corporations which control the promoters and the news media)

I may have to continue this study later...time constraints are weighing me down...but observe what the beast was "given."  A MOUTH.  What is Barack Obama's biggest asset?  His big MOUTH.





It's all starting to make sense now.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: drummr on October 10, 2008, 03:18:23 AM
I don't see Obama being the Antichrist, but I believe we are seeing
why the Antichrist will be accepted and adored for his charisma.

I'm still watching Tony Blair. 
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Cody P on October 12, 2008, 02:07:09 AM
I have mixed feelings about him being the Anti-Christ. However alot of the things that " bliss" has posted makes alot of sense.  But I can say that I believe that if Obama does get to be president it is only because God wants him in office so that God can bring the end-time even sooner.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Chérie on October 13, 2008, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: bishopnl on October 08, 2008, 08:40:08 PM
I believe Obama is the anti christ for the following reasons.

First, study revelations chapter 13, where it talks about the beast who comes out of the sea.  First notice where he comes from.  The sea.  Obama was born in Hawaii, which is an island nation in the middle of where?  the ocean i.e. sea (also a volcanic island which sprang up "out of the sea"). 

Second, notice that the beast has 10 horns.  I believe these represent the top 10 influential Hollywood people who support Obama's candidacy...note the resemblance...Horns...Hollywood (both begin w/Ho).  Jennifer Aniston, Robert DeNiro, Chris Rock, Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johanson George Clooney, Ben Affleck, The Kennedy women (Caroline/Maria Shriver) will.i.am, and of course, oprah.  It also has seven heads.  who are the "heads" of these influential actors and stars?  The studio's/corporations.  The Big Six, of course, Time Warner, Viacom, Disney, Sony, GE/Vivendi, and News Corp.  Wait, but the prophecy says 7....and one of the heads suffered a wound from which it almost didn't recover, but it was healed and the world wondered after it.  Makes sense when you remember that New Line Cinema recently underwent financial hardship but was bought and brought in under Time Warner's corporate umbrella...it was "healed", so to speak.

So far, we've noted the beast:

A.  comes from the sea, (i.e. Hawaii)
B. Has 10 horns (his Hollywood promoters which are both financing and running his propaganda--they are the ones who are doing the dirty work)
C. Has 7 heads (seven major studios/media corporations which control the promoters and the news media)

I may have to continue this study later...time constraints are weighing me down...but observe what the beast was "given."  A MOUTH.  What is Barack Obama's biggest asset?  His big MOUTH.

:rofl:
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: newkris on October 13, 2008, 04:19:11 PM
i'm more worried about who is controlling the money of this world since one by one governments are taking over banks. 

as for obama being the anti-christ . . . .really?  oh my word. . . .
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: bishopnl on October 13, 2008, 04:26:32 PM
Cody,

I'm the one bliss was quoting.  My comments were completely tongue-in-cheek.  Obama is not the anti-christ. 

hope I didn't confuse anyone. ;)
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Scott on October 14, 2008, 01:01:28 AM
Jack Bauer is the Anti Christ, we all know that.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: bishopnl on October 14, 2008, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Scott on October 14, 2008, 01:01:28 AM
Jack Bauer is the Anti Christ, we all know that.

Don't hate on Jack.   ;)
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: savedbygrace on October 15, 2008, 05:09:36 AM
I don't think Obama is The Anti Christ..but I do think he has a spirit of an person that is Anti Christ..he proves that daily in all his platforms..and very liberal ways.  I do believe he is helping make the way for people to be more acceptable to He who is to come.  I can't stand the way that people make out over  him...yuck..sorry just had to say that, people are so blinded these days.  I believe that the "great falling away" is well underway for sure.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: nicolejoy on October 17, 2008, 12:23:45 PM
I dunno who is the antichrist, but Nate is the next Irvin Baxter!! (or whatever his name is!!)
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Rattlesnake on October 17, 2008, 02:13:39 PM
Whether Obama is the antichrist or not, it is a thought worthy of taking notice.  It is amazing to see how the whoe world, (other countries) are supporting Obama. Who is Obama? What is his history? How long is he been in office? 4 years ago, Hillary Clinton was the next President, now, someone who is a no name comes on the scene and completely blows her out of the water!  All at once the whole world seems to have fallen in love with Obama and left Hillary out in the cold! All I can say is WOW!!!!!

I din't know about you guys --- but I'm geting excited!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: bishopnl on October 17, 2008, 03:29:11 PM
Quote from: nicolejoy on October 17, 2008, 12:23:45 PM
I dunno who is the antichrist, but Nate is the next Irvin Baxter!! (or whatever his name is!!)

:laughhard:
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: titushome on October 17, 2008, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: Rattlesnake on October 17, 2008, 02:13:39 PM
Who is Obama? What is his history? How long is he been in office? 4 years ago, Hillary Clinton was the next President, now, someone who is a no name comes on the scene and completely blows her out of the water!  All at once the whole world seems to have fallen in love with Obama and left Hillary out in the cold! All I can say is WOW!!!!!

Well, I wouldn't exactly say he blew her out of the water.  The race between them was pretty tight almost until the end.

But you're certainly right about people going head-over-heels for Obama in a way they don't for Clinton or any other candidate.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: J Lamar on October 18, 2008, 10:34:50 PM
I don't believe Obama is the Antichrist. As mentioned, I do believe he is Antichrist like because of the kool - aid following he has. I think this also shows just how many Christians will be deceived by the A.C. when he steps on the scene by how many are so willing to vote for Obama... :nono:
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: J Lamar on October 18, 2008, 10:48:56 PM
However, if he ever shows up on tv like this...start worrying.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b247/Batman1968/o666.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: newkris on October 19, 2008, 12:44:57 AM
you know that's photoshopped.


obamma doesn't wear an american flag on his lapel.  :pwink: 
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Melody on October 22, 2008, 08:22:27 PM
hahahahaha   :laughhard:  Kris and J Lamar

Rattlesnake, do you say "WOW" that much in real life?
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: dnr1128 on October 24, 2008, 01:09:14 AM
I don't believe that he is the AntiChrist, simply because I don't believe that he will be an American.  For example, both Daniel and Revelation teach that he will rise out of ten kings, or leaders of individual nations;  if Obama is indeed the beast, where are the other nine nations?   What is the wound in his head that was deadly then healed?  How is he "was not and now is?"  If my memory serves me correctly, he will uproot three kings.  Who are they? 

I'm more of the opinion that Tony Blair or Vladimir Putin are more likely candidates. 

The "desire of women" statement being interpreted as meaning the antichrist will be single and/or gay is not accurate.  It makes much more sense to say that he will put in place a global system of birth control, thus denying women their desire, to bear children.  This especially makes sense in the light that globalists and environmentalists believe that there are too many people on this planet. 

If the AC is single, why would that be a point relevant enough to necessitate telling us in Scripture?  I don't buy it. 
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Sis on October 24, 2008, 01:13:24 AM
Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it can't.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: dnr1128 on October 24, 2008, 03:02:04 AM
Certainly it can happen...but at this point in my assessment it's not likely.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Niki on October 24, 2008, 08:27:16 AM
I've always heard that the anti-Christ will be Jewish.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: dnr1128 on October 24, 2008, 04:06:42 PM
Might be.  I've heard that too.  Haven't seen any evidence for it, aside from the idea that in order for the Jews to accept him as their Messiah he would have to be a Jew, which is certainly within reason.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: newkris on October 25, 2008, 04:36:15 PM
so . . here's a thought . . . what difference does it make if he is or isn't?  or whoever is or isn't?  can we change what God has in mind?

or does it just make the church more aware of the urgency of the hour to reach the lost?

i think it's good that everyone is stirred up about it.  maybe it will make us take a better look at what we're investing our time and talents into.  if we're so close to the end that the anti-christ could honestly be in politics . . . then . . . how close to the return of our Lord? 

are we ready?  what about our neighbors?

just my two bits . . .   
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: dnr1128 on October 26, 2008, 03:22:25 AM
Good points.  Thought-provoking.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Gingerale on October 29, 2008, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: Scott on October 14, 2008, 01:01:28 AM
Jack Bauer is the Anti Christ, we all know that.

*smirk*

If that's the case, I am already done in!
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: jdcord on October 30, 2008, 07:19:52 AM

Quote from: He Still Delivers on October 29, 2008, 04:56:21 PM
If that's the case, I am already done in!

Why?  Do you have a "24" tattoo, or something?  .... (if so, please don't tell us where   :scared:)


:laughhard:
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Sis on October 30, 2008, 07:55:16 AM
I thought it was 24 SkiDoo?!?!?!
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: J Lamar on November 02, 2008, 06:13:57 PM
Quote from: newkris on October 25, 2008, 04:36:15 PM
so . . here's a thought . . . what difference does it make if he is or isn't?  or whoever is or isn't?  can we change what God has in mind?
No, but the mark of the beast is in God's plan...I have no intention on going along with it.

Just as Jesus had John the Baptist prepare the way...I think Obama can very well be the one to prepare the way for the AC. He certainly has the Kool-Aid following.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: Sis on November 02, 2008, 11:27:52 PM
I don't think I'm gonna drink Kool-aid anymore.  :yikes:
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: J Lamar on November 03, 2008, 05:27:38 AM
Now, now, you know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?
Post by: newkris on November 03, 2008, 07:51:32 AM
Quote from: J Lamar on November 02, 2008, 06:13:57 PM
Quote from: newkris on October 25, 2008, 04:36:15 PM
so . . here's a thought . . . what difference does it make if he is or isn't?  or whoever is or isn't?  can we change what God has in mind?
No, but the mark of the beast is in God's plan...I have no intention on going along with it.

Just as Jesus had John the Baptist prepare the way...I think Obama can very well be the one to prepare the way for the AC. He certainly has the Kool-Aid following.

possibly.  so.  you know what not to do.  what are you doing to prepare for the end of time?  what if your end is tomorrow?  are you ready?

that's the ultimate question i ask myself as i go through my day.  life is too fragile and time is too uncertain to bother with whether or not some political figure is the answer to the prophecies of the Bible.  in my opinion.  what difference does it make in my day whoever he is?  only what's done for Christ will last.