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Spiritual Discussion => Prayer, Praise and the Word of God => Topic started by: ChangedByGod on September 22, 2008, 01:59:10 PM

Title: Rebaptism?
Post by: ChangedByGod on September 22, 2008, 01:59:10 PM
I do understand that we only need to be baptized once, but I have a question

I was 7 years old when I was baptized, and looking back I question my motives behind being baptized, as several of my friends were being baptized that night and I was more just doing it then because they were.
I am just now getting back into church and and am really feeling in my heart I need to be rebaptized. Would I be wrong if I asked to be rebaptized?
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: World Traveler on September 22, 2008, 03:13:12 PM
No, nothing wrong with it. In 1 Peter 3:21, the Bible talks about baptism being in part for our conscience sake.

I was baptised three times.

First time in the titles (wrong way there)

Second time in Jesus name (Yeah baby!!! Right way now)

Third time in Jesus name because I later found out my pastor in the former church (I had since began going to a UPC) was a former UPC pastor who was not teaching the whole truth about the plan of salvation (He taught you didn't always speak in tongues when getting the Holy Ghost and it was not necessary for salvation). So, for my conscience sake and to shut up those nagging doubts the devil kept putting in my head, I was baptised in Jesus name the third time.
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Chseeads on September 22, 2008, 04:17:14 PM
There wouldn't be anything wrong with it.  It sounds like you have a pretty good grasp on the reasoning behind it. 

Just talk with your pastor about it.  Some preachers do have some varying opinions on the subject, but from my experience it seems that most will rebaptize someone if they feel the need in a case like yours.
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Brother Dad on September 22, 2008, 07:21:56 PM
Baptism is about purpose.  So if your purpose was not for Jesus Christ but because everyone else was doing it, then I would urge you to get baptized.  If for any other reason you may feel the need to be baptized then simply let your Pastor know and I am sure he will help you. 
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Scott on September 22, 2008, 11:23:10 PM
Here is my take.

If you feel you need to be rebaptized - Do it!

Don't try to figure it out, don't try to stress it, just get re baptized!

I know several people who have done it and they felt so much better. 
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Brother Dad on September 23, 2008, 02:17:41 AM
Quote from: Scott on September 22, 2008, 11:23:10 PM
Here is my take.

If you feel you need to be rebaptized - Do it!

Don't try to figure it out, don't try to stress it, just get re baptized!

I know several people who have done it and they felt so much better. 
Agreed
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Raven180 on September 23, 2008, 03:42:16 AM
Quote from: ChangedByGod on September 22, 2008, 01:59:10 PM
I was 7 years old when I was baptized, and looking back I question my motives behind being baptized, as several of my friends were being baptized that night and I was more just doing it then because they were.

Did you receive the Holy Spirit before you were baptized?
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: titushome on October 15, 2008, 09:57:38 PM
Quote from: World Traveler on September 22, 2008, 03:13:12 PM
Third time in Jesus name because I later found out my pastor in the former church (I had since began going to a UPC) was a former UPC pastor who was not teaching the whole truth about the plan of salvation (He taught you didn't always speak in tongues when getting the Holy Ghost and it was not necessary for salvation). So, for my conscience sake and to shut up those nagging doubts the devil kept putting in my head, I was baptised in Jesus name the third time.

So... does the effectiveness of baptism depend in part on who performs the baptism?  Does it have to be a professional minister?  Does it have to be a professional minister who teaches "the whole truth about the plan of salvation"?

Just wondering....
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: World Traveler on October 15, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
Jesus gave the great commission to his disciples... not just the apostles. I believe the right to baptize applies to all who are born again the correct way and living the life.
But, they do have to be in the church. Sheep bring forth sheep. The church labors and brings forth new babes in Christ. If a person is not in the faith, then I question their right to baptize in Jesus name.
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: titushome on October 16, 2008, 04:25:41 PM
Quote from: World Traveler on October 15, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
If a person is not in the faith, then I question their right to baptize in Jesus name.

I too would "question their right to baptize in Jesus name," but the power of baptism is in the Name, not in the person doing the baptizing.  So as long as the heart of the person being baptized is right - i.e., they've elected to turn from their sins and live their life toward God - then their baptism is still effective, regardless of who performed it.
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: EricShane on October 16, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
well...
around here, they preach
that if you backslide
you have to do your First Works Over...


at least thats the way I was always taught... but, also I go to a Pentecostal Holiness church.. so that might be different
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Brother Dad on October 16, 2008, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: EricShane on October 16, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
well...
around here, they preach
that if you backslide
you have to do your First Works Over...


at least thats the way I was always taught... but, also I go to a Pentecostal Holiness church.. so that might be different
I raised this way also but then the taught me by way of periodical son.  When he came back he could not be born back into the family but just acknowledge his wrong doing and return to his father.  We are born naturally one time and Spiritually one time.   
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: pkdad on October 17, 2008, 01:43:11 AM
The most important thing to understand is baptism without repentance, is void. When one repents with Godly sorrow and God grants life unto repentance (HolyGhost) you are then prepared for baptism in the name of the one who died, JESUS! While I received the Holy Ghost coming up out of that watery grave, it is vital that repentance be genuine and God given. Too many times we see 'head' change and no 'heart ' change because the candidate
finds  Jesus on the Cross in theory and not fact...faith brings us before a Holy Jesus bearing our sins to save us and we see our utter sinfullness and helplessness and we are broken and cry out for deliverance....any less experience must be suspect.
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Brother Dad on October 17, 2008, 02:41:24 AM
Without repentance it is just getting wet. 
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: EricShane on October 17, 2008, 02:51:27 AM
Quote from: Brother Dad on October 16, 2008, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: EricShane on October 16, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
well...
around here, they preach
that if you backslide
you have to do your First Works Over...


at least thats the way I was always taught... but, also I go to a Pentecostal Holiness church.. so that might be different
I raised this way also but then the taught me by way of periodical son.  When he came back he could not be born back into the family but just acknowledge his wrong doing and return to his father.  We are born naturally one time and Spiritually one time.   
Im hoping you meant Prodigal not Periodical lol...

but, Yeah.. I can understand that...
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Brother Dad on October 17, 2008, 03:30:59 AM
Quote from: EricShane on October 17, 2008, 02:51:27 AM
Quote from: Brother Dad on October 16, 2008, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: EricShane on October 16, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
well...
around here, they preach
that if you backslide
you have to do your First Works Over...


at least thats the way I was always taught... but, also I go to a Pentecostal Holiness church.. so that might be different
I raised this way also but then the taught me by way of periodical son.  When he came back he could not be born back into the family but just acknowledge his wrong doing and return to his father.  We are born naturally one time and Spiritually one time.   
Im hoping you meant Prodigal not Periodical lol...

but, Yeah.. I can understand that...
Yeah that is what I meant.  Opps
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: barefoot on October 18, 2008, 01:33:42 AM
let your heart be your guide-just love jesus- everything will be ok-
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: BeccaBoo on October 18, 2008, 05:34:59 AM
My sister and Dad both got rebaptized when they got back in church.

Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Brother Dad on October 18, 2008, 05:57:51 PM
I normally would not refuse someone who felt they needed to be rebaptized.   But I do not teach it as necessary, unless the person was baptized for the wrong reason the first time.   
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Brother Dad on October 18, 2008, 05:58:48 PM
One example of the wrong reason is when someone gets baptized just to stop people from constantly harassing them.
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Bro Bart on October 28, 2008, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: titushome on October 16, 2008, 04:25:41 PM
Quote from: World Traveler on October 15, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
If a person is not in the faith, then I question their right to baptize in Jesus name.

I too would "question their right to baptize in Jesus name," but the power of baptism is in the Name, not in the person doing the baptizing.  So as long as the heart of the person being baptized is right - i.e., they've elected to turn from their sins and live their life toward God - then their baptism is still effective, regardless of who performed it.
Amen to that!
Many in our ranks have turned baptism into a sacrificial, mechanical rite, when as long as you say the right name, do the right thing, your sins are forgiven. It reeks after witchcraft I tell you. Its called baptismal regeneration, and its based on salvation by works.
According to 1peter3:21 its the answer of a good conscience towards God, its not the water that saves you. Its when you pledge your life to Jesus coupled with repentance and obedience to His word.
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: onli-one-jehovi on October 28, 2008, 02:38:37 PM
Quote from: Bro Bart on October 28, 2008, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: titushome on October 16, 2008, 04:25:41 PM
Quote from: World Traveler on October 15, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
If a person is not in the faith, then I question their right to baptize in Jesus name.

I too would "question their right to baptize in Jesus name," but the power of baptism is in the Name, not in the person doing the baptizing.  So as long as the heart of the person being baptized is right - i.e., they've elected to turn from their sins and live their life toward God - then their baptism is still effective, regardless of who performed it.
Amen to that!
Many in our ranks have turned baptism into a sacrificial, mechanical rite, when as long as you say the right name, do the right thing, your sins are forgiven. It reeks after witchcraft I tell you. Its called baptismal regeneration, and its based on salvation by works.
According to 1peter3:21 its the answer of a good conscience towards God, its not the water that saves you. Its when you pledge your life to Jesus coupled with repentance and obedience to His word.

:clap2:
Title: Re: Rebaptism?
Post by: Backseat Radio on December 01, 2008, 04:00:41 AM
Quote from: ChangedByGod on September 22, 2008, 01:59:10 PM
I do understand that we only need to be baptized once, but I have a question

I was 7 years old when I was baptized, and looking back I question my motives behind being baptized, as several of my friends were being baptized that night and I was more just doing it then because they were.
I am just now getting back into church and and am really feeling in my heart I need to be rebaptized. Would I be wrong if I asked to be rebaptized?

There are valid reasons for being rebaptized.  Here's some possibilities...

1)  the origional baptism wasn't by your choice
2)  the origional baptism wasn't a biblical baptism
3)  the origional baptism was done for the wrong reason

I chose to be rebaptized because my first baptism was not by my choice.