ARE AMERICANS READY FOR JUDGMENT?

[onli-one-jehovi]

I"ve been troubled by this for quite awhile. Especially this year. I know the populace of this country are not ready in the slightest. It still seems like everything is "normal". Money trades hands and kids go to the mall. Everyone remains concerned about credit scores and retirement funds. The news media reports 'celebrity X's' latest escapades. Political candidates squabble about nothing, while the enemies of this country prepare.

Does anyone here see the warnings? Anyone else bothered about this? Anyone else given serious thought to our immediate future?


I'm not scared. I'm just troubled.

What do you think?

[titushome]

It is troubling.  My hope is that if Americans will not turn back to God now, then perhaps the coming of judgment will cause us to turn back to Him.  God's judgment often has that effect on a people.

[OGIA]

Jerry,

I think this country, and probably some others, are so numbed at this point that it is going to take a very serious disaster to stir folks....even me to a degree.    

This country has a history of always "winning".  I think it will take a "loss" for this country to realize how much trouble it has been in for a long time now.  You can see the same thing as it happened to the Jews over decades and centuries.  Finally God's hand was removed and serious disaster ensued.  I see this country collapsing daily and I see families going about their way as if it's all normal. 

Numbed.  That's about all I can think to say. 

[onli-one-jehovi]

Yeah, that's the sad thing. We tend to "shake things off" so fast. What will it take to open our eyes and turn our hearts?

It just seems that I find myself thinking about this more and more. This year, the LORD has led me to websites addressing America and its demise. I wasn't even looking for them. Just somehow wound up there. The phrase: "It's all going to burn" has been rumbling thru my heart and soul for some months now. I'm not so much concerned about escaping the coming calamities, as I am being sure I - and mine - are truly ready and saved.

What I've discovered so far has been dreams, visions, & prophecies regarding God's coming judgment upon this country. Things like greater hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes. Famine and drought; fires and floods. Terrorism multiplied, involving nukes. Cities destroyed and entire states disappearing under water. Add to that, the collapse of our economy & martial law.

I really try to keep up with current events in all sectors of society. It takes a blind person not to see the writing on the wall. God is fully justified in destroying this country over the 50 million + abortions carried out the last 40 years. We have turned our face from Him and serve other gods. He has called and called and called, yet we still refuse to repent and turn from our wicked ways. We're getting shell shocked from all directions.

I honestly believe there is a strong possibility the final 7 yrs begins this Fall at Rosh Hoshanah. I'm afraid President Bush is determined to go to war with Iran, no matter the cost. This will be catastrophic for America. The repercussions will be deathly.

Our message now, more than ever, needs to be that of Jesus: Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. This time, it physically is near.

I'm really troubled in my spirit. Great revival is at hand. Great judgment accompanies it. Our time to shine is almost here. We have to be prepared.

[OGIA]

I honestly believe there is a strong possibility the final 7 yrs begins this Fall at Rosh Hoshanah.

I'd like to hear more.

Great revival is at hand. Great judgment accompanies it. Our time to shine is almost here. We have to be prepared.

I was talking to a coworker about this just yesterday.  WE HAVE TO BE READY!  People are going to begin running into churches and homes of those they have watched from afar and are deemed by them to be "true Christians".  I WANT TO BE ONE OF THOSE!  I don't need to know what anyone thinks of me now, but I pray that my light and salt have affected enough people that they know where to run to.  It might be in their own personal tribulation period or it might be in the one of which you speak, but I asked the Lord that my life be recognizable as a lighthouse in the coming calamity!   :grin:

[titushome]

It just seems that I find myself thinking about this more and more. This year, the LORD has led me to websites addressing America and its demise. I wasn't even looking for them. Just somehow wound up there. The phrase: "It's all going to burn" has been rumbling thru my heart and soul for some months now.

In addition to what John wrote, I'd like to hear more about this as well.

[onli-one-jehovi]

I will. Probably be tomorrow. I'm kinda slow. Two or more topics at once makes me think harder. 

[onli-one-jehovi]

 Rosh Hoshanna - Feast of Trumpets  to   Yom Kippur - Day of Atonement is 2550 consecutive days or 86 moons + 9 days. Daniel says the 70th week is 1260 + 1290 = 2550 days.  


THE NUMBER OF MOONS FROM TISHREI OF A GIVEN YEAR TO TISHREI 7 YEARS LATER VARIES. IT MAY BE 7 x 12 = 84 MOONS PLUS 2 EXTRA EMBOLISMAL ADAR 2 MOONS = 86 MOONS OR IT MAY BE 7 x 12 =84 PLUS 3 EXTRA EMBOLISMAL ADAR 2 MOONS = 87 MOONS. THOSE SEVEN YEAR SPANS CONTAINING 86 MOONS MATCH UP PERFECTLY THE TIMESPAN BETWEEN THE NEXT TWO FEASTS OF ISRAEL THAT ARE DUE FOR FULFILMENT. FROM TISHREI 1, (THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS), IN CERTAIN YEARS AND TERMINATING ON TISHREI 10, THE DAY OF ATONEMENT, DAY OF RECKONING, DAY OF JUDGEMENT SEVEN YEARS LATER THE TIME ELAPSED IS EXACTLY 2550 DAYS. THIS IS THE EXACT NUMBER OF DAYS, (1260 + 1290 DAYS), WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL.


BELOW WE SEE HOW THE METATONIC CYCLES ARE LAID OUT ACROSS SUCCESSIVE 7 YEAR SPANS OF YEARS. WE ALSO NOTICE THAT THESE TISHREI TO TISHREI TIMESPANS ARE EITHER 87 MOONS OR 86 MOONS. THOSE TIMESPANS OF 86 MOONS FIT THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL SO PERFECTLY THAT WE ARE BOUND TO CONCLUDE THAT THE NEXT TWO HEBREW FEASTS DUE TO COME UP FOR FULFILLMENT, NAMELY THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS AND THE DAY OF ATONEMENT ARE IN FACT THE VERY TWO FEASTS THAT MARK THE BEGINNING OF THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL AND THE END OF THE 1290 DAYS THE ANGEL GABRIEL SPOKE OF IN HIS MESSAGE TO DANIEL. (DAN.12:11) THE 1290 DAYS EXTEND OUT 30 DAYS BEYOND THE 1260 DAYS OF THE LATTER HALF OF THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL AND MAY BE AGRACE PERIOD IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON THAT WILL MARK THE CLIMAX OF THIS AGE. THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS AND THE DAY OF ATONEMENT ARE THE FIRST TWO OF THE THREE FALL FEASTS OF ISRAEL. THESE FEASTS, #'s 5, 6, & 7 HAVE YET TO BE FULFILLED IN THE NEW COVENANT. HOLY HISTORY HAS YET TO REVEAL THESE EPIC EVENTS US. THEY ARE OUT THERE IN FUTURE HISTORY. AND THESE UPCOMING TWO FALL FEASTS MARK OUT THE FINAL SEVEN YEARS OF THIS AGE WITH TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE PRECISION.


Number of moons in 7 Years beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2004:  2004-2005 13 moons  2005-2006 12 moons  2006-2007 12 moons  2007-2008 13 moons  2008-2009 12 moons  2009-1010 12 moons  2010-2011 13 moons   87 moons (Fails to qualify for 70th week)

Number of moons in 7 Years beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2005:  2005-2006  12 moons    2006-2007 12 moons    2007-2008 13 moons    2008-2009 12 moons    2009-2010 12 moons    2010-1011 13 moons    2011-2012 12 moons    86 moons (Qualifies for 70th week)

Number of moons in 7 Years beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2006:  2006-2007 12 moons    2007-2008 13 moons    2008-2009 12 moons    2009-2010 12 moons    2010-2011 13 moons    2011-1012 12 moons    2012-2013 12 moons    86 moons (Qualifies for 70th week)

Number of moons beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2007    2007-2008 13 moons    2008-2009 12 moons    2009-2010 12 moons    2010-2011
13 moons    2011-1012 12 moons    2012-2013 12 moons    2013-2014 13 moons    87 moons (Fails to qualify for 70th week)

Number of moons beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2008    2008-2009 12 moons    2009-2010 12 moons    2010-2011 13 moons    2011-1012
12 moons    2012-2013 12 moons    2013-2014 13 moons    2014-2015 12 moons    86 moons (Qualifies for 70th week)

Number of moons beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2009    2009-2010 12 moons    2010-2011 13 moons    2011-1012 12 moons    2012-2013
12 moons    2013-2014 13 moons    2014-2015 12 moons    2015-2016 13 moons    87 moons (Fails to qualify for 70th week)

Number of moons beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2010    2010-2011 13 moons    2011-1012 12 moons    2012-2013 12 moons    2013-2014
13 moons    2014-2015 12 moons    2015-2016 13 moons    2016-2017 12 moons    87 moons (Fails to qualify for 70th week)

Beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2011   2011-1012 12 moons   2012-2013 12 moons  2013-2014  13 moons  2014-2015 12 moons  2015-2016
13 moons    2016-2017  12 moons  2017-2018  12 moons  86 moons (Qualifies for 70th week)

Beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2012  2012-2013  12 moons   2013-2014  13 moons  2014-2015  12 moons  2015-2016  13 moons  2016-2017
12 moons    2017-2018  12 moons    2018-1019  13 moons   87 moons  (Fails to qualify for 70th week)

Beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2013   2013-2014  13 moons  2014-2015 12 moons  2015-2016  13 moons  2016-2017  12 moons  2017-2018
12 moons    2018-1019  13 moons    2019-2020  12 moons   87 moons (Fails to qualify for 70th week)

Beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2014   2014-2015 12 moons  2015-2016 13 moons   2016-2017  12 moons  2017-2018  12 moons  2018-1019
13 moons    2019-2020  12 moons     2020-2021  12 moons  86 moons  (Qualifies  for 70th week)

Beginning on Rosh Hoshanah 2015   2015-2016  13 moons  2016-2017  12 moons  2017-2018  12 moons  2018-1019  13 moons  2019-2020
12 moons    2020-2021  12 moons    2021-1022  13 moons     87 moons (Fails to qualify for 70th week)

By Gavin Finley MD - endtimepilgrim.org

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Besides all the socio-political, economic, and natural events taking place around the planet, add to the above the possibility of the blood moon around 2015. That event will occur only the one time in the 21st century. IF scripture is fulfilled by natural means and not relying on man made events {smoke, nuclear dust, etc}, the 7yrs would have to start in 2008.
The first 4 feasts were fulfilled to the day, by Jesus' first advent. There is no reason to doubt the last 3 will not be major portents of prophecy. As we can see, Rosh Hoshanah of 2008 completes Daniel's 2550 days in 2015.

We also have the testimony of scripture regarding 2001 beginning the 7th day {7000 yrs} from Adam, and 3rd day {3000 yrs} from Jesus. Genesis tells us God finished His work on the 7th day. Joseph's type of Christ revealed 14yrs from coming out of prison {resurrection} to having all kingdoms under his feet {return}. News media have repeatedly called the first 7 yrs of this century as "good/plentiful", and 2008 as beginning of "bad/famine".

The year of 2008 began & continues with the cry of REPENT going out to the churches and the world. The Lord is desperately trying to warn us to prepare. The midnight hour found in the parable of the virgins, could be from the 6th day going into the 7th. The virgins all rose to go meet the bridegroom. They all had oil to last until midnight. It was only the wise {understanding} who prepared for afterward. The wise had oil {illumination} for the brief journey of darkness to the Bridegroom and entered into the protection of the Kingdom. The foolish {unaware} took too long gaining oil and wound up taking the brunt of the judgment.

That's just some of the reasons I believe this is the time.

Check out these websites. {Note: I do not necessarily agree with everything on these places. Neither do I necessarily agree with everything on GP Forums. The information is very thought provoking and worth "trying the spirits". }

Each site has verbally authorized any and all information to be freely used.

www.endtimepilgrim.com                 www.propheticwatchmanvine.com

www.americaslastdays.com               www.handofhelp.com/index.php

www.newwineministry.net


If these are a problem, just PM me & I will send them to you.

[onli-one-jehovi]

I honestly believe there is a strong possibility the final 7 yrs begins this Fall at Rosh Hoshanah.

I'd like to hear more.

Great revival is at hand. Great judgment accompanies it. Our time to shine is almost here. We have to be prepared.

I was talking to a coworker about this just yesterday.  WE HAVE TO BE READY!  People are going to begin running into churches and homes of those they have watched from afar and are deemed by them to be "true Christians".  I WANT TO BE ONE OF THOSE!  I don't need to know what anyone thinks of me now, but I pray that my light and salt have affected enough people that they know where to run to.  It might be in their own personal tribulation period or it might be in the one of which you speak, but I asked the Lord that my life be recognizable as a lighthouse in the coming calamity!   :grin:

Yes, me too. The Bible consistently speaks of the remnant who come out of the masses and participate in exploits. The Lord has prepared us for this particular time. We have to put away all childish discentions and unite as the mature Body of Christ. We want to be manifested Sons of God.

[OGIA]

Thanks, Jerry. 

[onli-one-jehovi]

The phrase: "It's all going to burn" has been rumbling thru my heart and soul for some months now. I'm not so much concerned about escaping the coming calamities, as I am being sure I - and mine - are truly ready and saved.

I mentioned things burning in a post above. A couple of weeks ago, I ran across this article. I only pasted part of it, as it is very lengthy. Leaves something to ponder on.  The website is:

http://www.theamericannightmare.org/165_The_Great_Abyss_A-D.html

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WHAT  YOU  ARE  ABOUT  TO  READ  IS  ACCURATE  AND  TRUE !

1.  According to its own official maps, America (and both its neighbors) sit on top of the Hugoton-Panhandle Natural Gas Reserve, which is the largest natural gas reserve on earth.

2.  In order to extract natural gas from what is basically an enormously large interconnected and "dry" set of chambers, America's energy companies have been pumping huge amounts of water into them for just under a hundred years to force the gas out into pipelines, then on to processing plants.
 
NOTE:  In areas (such as the Rocky Mountains) the H-P Reserve consists of little more than dense oil soaked layers of shale rock, and for which reason, it is not profitable to extract gas from those areas.  Even so, several very rich oil fields co-exist with the H-P natural gas reserve in these same areas of dense shale rock. In places such as south Texas oil formations are much deeper, and do not generally pose the problem we will be discussing. However, should our shallow natural gas reserve ever become ignited, the above areas would either explode or burn nevertheless.

3. Once the gas in a given part of the chamber of our natural gas reserve reaches a point where it's no longer dense enough to be economical to extract gas from, these energy companies simply move to areas that are more dense, in hopes that the vacuum caused by the receeding "replacement" water will eventually * Wash my mouth out with soap * in enough gas from other areas of the reserve.

4.  Meanwhile, the law of gravity has been constantly pulling the replacement water they had previously filled that part of the gas chamber with into our water acquifers, which are located well below the gas chambers, leaving the partial vacuum that remains loaded with lower levels of natural gas.

5.  Granted, most of the overall gas reserve consists of fairly dense shale rock, but there are large chambers (wide open spaces) particularly in the areas where the energy companies have been removing oil and natural gas, within the same general areas.

6.  With nothing else to fill the void created by the reduced water level in the reserves, the resulting vacuum * Wash my mouth out with soap * air (oxygen) into these huge chambers from the surface of the earth; mostly through vent pipes left from the original drilling operation.

7.  Once the oxygen to gas ratio reaches fourteen percent, the "mix" in this part of the reserve becomes volatile, and subject to exploding if and when it is ever ignited.  A mix of twenty one percent oxygen to gas ratio causes that particular gas chamber to become a genuine fully loaded bomb, just waiting to be ignited.

8.  At a point just thirty miles north of Pantex, where America stores its larger nuclear weapons, the H-P Reserve is less than fifty feet below the surface of the earth; and subject to being breached by just anything falling from the sky, such as an airplane, a meteorite, or a bomb.

9.  If that should ever take place, the entire North American Continent would be subject to a series of explosions and fires, until it literally ceases to exist, because the entire N. American Continent is literally perched on top of the H-P Reserve.  So, after the explosions, those parts that are made of heavily oil laden shale rock would simply burn until there is nothing left.  Which means the dirt itself would burn.

[Scott]

Please break up longer posts, the page will load quicker for slower connections and it is easier to read

Thanks

[titushome]

8.  At a point just thirty miles north of Pantex, where America stores its larger nuclear weapons, the H-P Reserve is less than fifty feet below the surface of the earth; and subject to being breached by just anything falling from the sky, such as an airplane, a meteorite, or a bomb.

I have a hunch that if this was a real danger, the Federal government would not store nuclear weapons in that particular spot.

Just my two cents.

[onli-one-jehovi]

Maybe and maybe not. 

We are talking about the Govt you know. Uncle Sam's middle name is Pinnochio. 

[titushome]

Maybe and maybe not. 

We are talking about the Govt you know. Uncle Sam's middle name is Pinnochio. 

Well, there are a lot of lies and secrets, to be sure.

But I think that if they suspected their precious weapons might be in danger, they'd move them.

[onli-one-jehovi]

Maybe and maybe not. 

We are talking about the Govt you know. Uncle Sam's middle name is Pinnochio. 

Well, there are a lot of lies and secrets, to be sure.

But I think that if they suspected their precious weapons might be in danger, they'd move them.

From what I can gather, they are looking into that right now. I believe the outsource locations are Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. Maybe Cuba cause it's closer. 

Seriously though... the whole place could go up and never effect the nukes. It takes more than that to set them off. Plain ole fire doesn't cut it.

Just something to ponder. Nothing more.

[titushome]

From what I can gather, they are looking into that right now. I believe the outsource locations are Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. Maybe Cuba cause it's closer. 

ROTFL!!! 

Seriously though... the whole place could go up and never effect the nukes. It takes more than that to set them off. Plain ole fire doesn't cut it.

Oh - I thought the author of the article you posted was trying to say that the damage of the explosion would be exponentially compounded because it might set the nukes off.

[onli-one-jehovi]

He may, but I didn't get that. Have to read it again.

I got that the water process has created a vacuum in the gas pockets, and that oxygen is filling that gap. This causes less pressure on the gas, making it unstable, while now sitting upon a richer mixture of oxygen. It's that which has become a virtually infinite source for feeding flame.

Then, if a couple of nuke silos were afforded a direct nuclear hit, (which would be powerful enough to start a reaction), it would expand the flammable gas pockets thruout the continent. I think he implied an underground explosion deep enough, and "lucky" enough could ignite the gas. Especially since we keep pushing the gas to the top.

I'm not really sure if it's feasible. Just thought it interesting. I thought of the scriptures about the smoke of Babylon being seen by the nations, and how Babylon would become uninhabitable. Nukes will definately do that. But so could an out- of- control fire underneath the Earth's crust.

Add to that, the recent reports of EMP weapons sought by Iran and held by Russia. That would take care of our nukes.

Jesus said He would burn the planet. He didn't say how. We are the seed of our own destruction.

[titushome]

Jesus said He would burn the planet. He didn't say how. We are the seed of our own destruction.

I believe it.

[onli-one-jehovi]

Tomorrow is 911 anniversary. The 7th to be exact. I think that is significant.

After seeing all the downsides that have occured over the last month and a half, I wonder just how much longer the USA has before "the big one"?

We spoke earlier of needing something massive to shake us out of our shells. Forestfires, bank closings, inflation, war, rumors of war, business collapses, floods, and hurricanes haven't seemed to do it. I guess it really will take a 9. quake and a 4. hurricane and a few nukes to get our attention. I guess the "church" is too busy waiting for the wealth transfer and prosperity to kick in. After all, the king's kids are deserving of the best. How sad. What a surprise is in store for the bulk of Christianity, as well as the world.

I sense more than ever that soon events will transpire to bring about the beginning of the tribulation. If we haven't begun it yet, know that Time is short. I urge each one here to go back before the Father and be sure all things are put under His feet. Go back and seek His face as never before for instructions regarding what is about to be unleashed upon the earth. Nothing will ever be the same. We must be prepared to step into our individual place; prepared to guide those whom we are given; prepared to set aside the old life and walk in the new. There is so much to be done in the weeks, months, years ahead for the Kingdom's sake.

Many of us will be put to death. Many will be imprisoned. All will be given the opportunity to turn away. It is my prayer we will all prove worthy to stand before Him and hear Him say "Well done".

It's that close.

[doogie]

Many will be raptured before the tribulation.  I intend to be one of them! 

[onli-one-jehovi]

Many will be raptured before the tribulation.  I intend to be one of them! 

Scripturally, that's not true. The church will be here for the whole magilla. I'm afraid you've taken the bait of a HUGE deception - if not THE BIGGEST LIE - to ever hit the church.

Sorry. Better get prepared. Be a wise virgin who has extra oil to meet the Bridegroom. Be salt and light in the midst of the darkness coming upon the face of the world - the gross darkness covering the people. Be one of the remnant who do greater works than Jesus.

Like the song says: I'm going thru. Best to take another look at the Book.

[OGIA]

Scripturally, that's not true. The church will be here for the whole magilla. I'm afraid you've taken the bait of a HUGE deception - if not THE BIGGEST LIE - to ever hit the church.

I tend to agree with you on the first part, Jerry.  I'm not sold on it, but lean that way heavily (more heavy over time!  lol!).  I was just thinking last night while reading that surely God wouldn't take His Church from the time in history when most people will be looking to Him, would He??  I can't base truth on that, but I see us likely being here to reap the harvest of the tribulation.  Why put mankind through 7 years of hell without hope of deliverance to only put them through an eternity of it without hope afterwards?

HOWEVER.....I gotta disagree with you on the pretrib rapture possibly being the biggest lie.  And, I'm sure you know what's coming.      The biggest lie, not only because it lies about the One and Only God but because it will be the one thing that will result in more people being lost, is the lie of the trinity.  Throw in there the lies of the other various and asundry doctrines of the godhead that are blatantly false, and you get the BIGGEST LIE of all.

Just thought I'd throw my in.  

[onli-one-jehovi]

And I caught your 2-cents John! Added them to another gallon jar with the others. Saving for a rainy day - which looks to be here about now.
:grin:

The great revival/harvest that the Church has been praying for and looking for occurs in the tribulation. Your logic is sound.

I heard again - not too long ago - the statement about God not allowing the dragging of His Bride thru the street to be defiled. Well, history is full of His Bride being dragged thru the street, resulting in:

death - imprisonment - beatings - loss of property - loss of homes - loss of family - etc. etc.

What makes today's church think we're so holy to escape that?

I tend to think the church knows it is too unholy to endure, and wants to run away.

Tribulation fire will burn alot of that away. For a few, anyhow. The rest will either fall away or perish early.


I say it again Church....  you better repent and get ready for what's coming now! Not years from today - but immediate future. Like weeks and months ahead. Listen to the cry of the Spirit in your heart and quit listening to false teachers in the pulpits. Now is not the time to fly away, but to prepare for the greatest hour the Church has ever known.


Do a quick study into these questions:

How many resurrections are there for Mankind {not counting Jesus' resurrection} and when do they occur?

Does the rapture occur before or after these resurrections?


The answer to those questions will reveal the truth about our immediate future.

[OGIA]

Jerry,

What do you see that prompts you to say "weeks and months"?  Just curious.