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bishopnl

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19663.html

The above is an article about how much Barack Obama relies on his telepromter, even using it for short announcements and when repeating things he's been saying for months.

So his only one redeeming quality, his beautiful oratory, seems to be heavily dependent on reading lines off a screen.  What a joke....
~Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.~
- Mark Twain, a Biography

~There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.~

- James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788

Sis

And they talked about Bush not speaking well. At least he tried.


Chérie

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Quote from: bishopnl on March 05, 2009, 08:54:33 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19663.html

The above is an article about how much Barack Obama relies on his telepromter, even using it for short announcements and when repeating things he's been saying for months.

So his only one redeeming quality, his beautiful oratory, seems to be heavily dependent on reading lines off a screen.  What a joke....

Wow. Is that all you can find to complain about? Really? If so Obama must be doing an awesome job then.

Quote from: Sis on March 05, 2009, 10:12:10 PM
And they talked about Bush not speaking well. At least he tried.

Maybe he should have used one of "them there telemajiggies" then? Or maybe he did, and he just couldn't read....
religion, tv, and media have powerful effects on the way people see the world. - maynard james keenan

Chérie

Ok I just looked and even Dubya used a teleprompter, complete with "fun-e-tic spell-in". But in all fairness, he probably spent most of the time behind the podium wondering how the little demons got inside there and were sending him these messages. (Which would probably account for all those weird facial expressions.)

I digress.

If the fate of the free world is depending on the president's speech, I would hope he would use a teleprompter, no matter his oratory skills.
religion, tv, and media have powerful effects on the way people see the world. - maynard james keenan

BenJammin

Quote from: Chérie on March 06, 2009, 07:55:47 PM
Ok I just looked and even Dubya used a teleprompter, complete with "fun-e-tic spell-in". But in all fairness, he probably spent most of the time behind the podium wondering how the little demons got inside there and were sending him these messages. (Which would probably account for all those weird facial expressions.)

I digress.

If the fate of the free world is depending on the president's speech, I would hope he would use a teleprompter, no matter his oratory skills.


:roll:

Herein, of course, is the hypocrisy of the whole thing.  Were a non-Obamabot to say the same thing about the present POTUS, the screaming, wailing, and crying would never end...

"Small boys become big men through the influence of big men who care about small boys." ~Anonymous~

"Courage is not the absence of fear; rather the understanding that something else is more important than fear" ~Ambrose Redmoon~

Chseeads

I never have thought Obama was such a great speaker as everybody talks about anyways.  :-?

BenJammin

Good Article -




Obama's Crutch — Why Is He So Afraid of Speaking Without a Teleprompter?

By John R. Lott, Jr., Author, Freedomnomics/Senior Research Scientist, University of Maryland

Late night comedians have had a difficult problem.  Presidents are usually the source of most late night joke, but comedians are having a hard time finding any material to make jokes about President Obama.  This isn't anything new, it was also true during the campaign.

Possibly they just need some help.  Could you imagine if Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush had used a teleprompter to answer questions during a press conference? The late night joke writers wouldn't have let it go until the President gave in to the merciless ridicule as he was painted as an idiot who couldn't tie his shoes without being fed instructions on how to do it.

While people who watched Obama's first national press conference noticed his use of a teleprompter to give his initial presentation as well as in answering questions, the media and late night joke writers completely ignored it. The American Spectator notes that in many events:

...down to many of the questions and the answers to those questions ... teleprompter screens at the events scrolled not only his opening remarks, but also statistics and information he could use to answer questions.

Apparently, Obama is looking to install a computer screen into the White House podiums so that, according to one Obama advisor, "It would make it easier for the comms guys to pass along information without being obvious about it." [Emphasis added.] Obama's aides would put together answers to a large number of possible questions so as soon as a reporter asks a particular question the computer screen could flash talking points to remind Obama how he's supposed to respond to that question.

Finally the Web site Politico broke the silence this week and pointed out that not only has "no other president has used one so consistently and at so many events, large and small," but that it has become an embarrassing "crutch."  The comic potential with the examples provided by the Politico article seem endless.

For example, when Obama was introducing Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius to head Health and Human Services, there was an awkward silence between Obama's and Sebelius' presentations as everyone had to wait for the teleprompters to be lowered to be moved out of the way.  In other cases, it has apparently been quite obvious to everyone at certain events that the teleprompter is there only for Obama and not for any of the other speakers.

It is kinda sad when audiences notice the jokes that the late night comedians miss.

But there is one advantage that Obama gets from the teleprompter.  He can always blame whoever wrote the answer when they turn out to be wrong.

Source - http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/03/07/lott_obama_teleprompter/
"Small boys become big men through the influence of big men who care about small boys." ~Anonymous~

"Courage is not the absence of fear; rather the understanding that something else is more important than fear" ~Ambrose Redmoon~

BenJammin

Here's another one...




Obama's Dirty Little Secret

By Noel Sheppard
Associate Editor, NewsBusters.org


If former President George W. Bush had brought a teleprompter with him whenever he spoke at a public event, would the mainstream media — who were always looking for new ways to depict him as a nincompoop — have used it to prove their point?

If the answer is "Yes," then why isn't President Barack "Have Teleprompter, Will Travel" Obama being so eviscerated?

Our new president views his teleprompter much like the old American Express slogan: "Don't leave home without it!"

Before you answer, consider what Politico's Carol E. Lee reported Thursday:  "President Barack Obama doesn't go anywhere without his TelePrompter."

The textbook-sized panes of glass holding the president's prepared remarks follow him wherever he speaks. ... Obama's reliance on the teleprompter is unusual — not only because he is famous for his oratory, but because no other president has used one so consistently and at so many events, large and small.

Wait a minute! Isn't this the most intelligent man in the world? Can't he memorize his speeches — regardless of how brief — like anybody else that engages in public oratory?

Apparently not. Just this morning, when Obama addressed Police Academy graduates in Columbus, Ohio, although he spoke for only about ten minutes, his trusty teleprompter was right by his side preventing him from making a boo boo.

Of course, as Lee pointed out, this crutch was quite obvious during the campaign:

After the teleprompter malfunctioned a few times last summer and Obama delivered some less-than-soaring speeches, reports surfaced that he was training to wean himself off of the device while on vacation in Hawaii.

For those of you who have forgotten, here's candidate Obama speaking without his safety-net at a town hall meeting in Bristol, Virginia, last July:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc

That should tell you why our new president views his teleprompter much like the old American Express slogan: "Don't leave home without it!!!"

Yet, possibly more disturbing are the lengths the media are going to in order to hide Obama's insecurity from the public according to Politico:  "His use of the teleprompter makes work tricky for the television crews and photographers trying to capture an image of the president announcing a new Cabinet secretary or housing plan without a pane of glass blocking his face."

Do you think media would have tried to capture former President Bush's image without a pane of glass blocking his face if he brought a teleprompter everywhere he went? Or would they have done their best to make him look foolish for doing so?

Yes, those are rhetorical questions.

Source - http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/03/06/sheppard_obama_teleprompter/
"Small boys become big men through the influence of big men who care about small boys." ~Anonymous~

"Courage is not the absence of fear; rather the understanding that something else is more important than fear" ~Ambrose Redmoon~

Sis

It makes me think he's a puppet and I wonder who's pulling the strings.  Where DID he get his money for Harvard?


Chérie

Quote from: Sis on March 09, 2009, 02:44:42 AM
It makes me think he's a puppet and I wonder who's pulling the strings.  Where DID he get his money for Harvard?

Well considering he had just paid them off when he started running for president, probably student loans.... like the rest of us.
religion, tv, and media have powerful effects on the way people see the world. - maynard james keenan

Sis

There is no record of any student loans for him.


Chérie

*sigh* Yes Virgina, UFOs were recovered at Roswell and the Apollo Moon Landing never happened. 

It seems strange that you are looking for conspiracies in every aspect of his political career, from his illegitimate American birth, to his religion, and now his student loans?  I'm am beginning to wonder if maybe you might be the source of all of those forwarded emails swirling rumors around Obama. You can waste your life away believing and making this stuff up....

Should we take every politician at face value? Absolutely not, but I am more concerned about the legitimate conspiracies concerning me and every other American like why we were lied to about a senseless war in Iraq.

religion, tv, and media have powerful effects on the way people see the world. - maynard james keenan

bishopnl

QuoteWow. Is that all you can find to complain about? Really? If so Obama must be doing an awesome job then.

Ha.  You've tried this before, and then, as now, I will say:

No.  But since almost everything else Obama has done that is unconstitutional, wrong, socialist, etc. has already been discussed ad nauseum by almost everyone everywhere, I posted this article because it's getting very little press attention (which is fine, since Obama has MUCH bigger problems than his overuse of a teleprompter).

It's just hilarious how this guy is so inept he can't even answer questions without it...yet you libs all praise him as a shining example of oratorical greatness.  It's so funny, especially how all of them were slobbering all over themselves to point the finger at how stupid Bush was, that now their hero's one great trait is turning out to be nothing more than smoke and mirrors.  Obama is starting to look more everyday like Jimmy Carter rather than the Abraham Lincoln he's tried to pass himself off as...and worse, he can't string together a sentence unless someone writes it down and puts it on a screen for him. 
~Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.~
- Mark Twain, a Biography

~There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.~

- James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788

Sis

Quote from: Chérie on March 09, 2009, 02:00:20 PM
*sigh* Yes Virgina, UFOs were recovered at Roswell and the Apollo Moon Landing never happened. 

It seems strange that you are looking for conspiracies in every aspect of his political career, from his illegitimate American birth, to his religion, and now his student loans?  I'm am beginning to wonder if maybe you might be the source of all of those forwarded emails swirling rumors around Obama. You can waste your life away believing and making this stuff up....

Should we take every politician at face value? Absolutely not, but I am more concerned about the legitimate conspiracies concerning me and every other American like why we were lied to about a senseless war in Iraq.



How rude!

1. Not looking for anything

2. These issues were being talked about way before he was elected. They have never been proven or disproven.

3. Getting sick of people and the democratic press pushing this dude as god. He's not.


Melody

oh my word, talk about naseaum... senseless war in Iraq? 

hahaha, liberals make believe there's a horse, then "kill it" and continue to beat it hoping we'll all be convinced there is a horse. ie: global warming.  It's so funny when they try and talk down to conservatives as if they have any sense in the first place.  The king has no clothes, liberals!  BOL

Sis

How about this?


Obama Gives What the Doctor Did Not Order


by: Phyllis Schlafly February 20, 2009 

Barack Obama forced a bitter pill down the throats of Americans which the doctor did not order and patients do not want. Obama snuck into the stimulus bill a new system for rationing medical care, and he got Congress to ram it through the House and Senate without reading it.
Maybe Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi thought no one would notice what they slipped into H.R.1 since rationing medical care has nothing to do with stimulating the economy. But the former New York lieutenant governor, Betsy McCaughey, sounded the alarm in her Bloomberg.com article aptly entitled "Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan." **

She described how stealth provisions provide massive new funding of billions of dollars to an Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology to monitor treatments and decide which are cost-effective and which will be permitted or denied. Currently, patients make that decision without government interference as long as the care is safe and effective.

Congress thus legislated a fundamental shift away from the "safe and effective" standard and replaced it with what a bureaucrat thinks is cost-effective or has "clinical effectiveness." Americans are waking up from their political anesthesia to realize that Obama's "change" really means government control over access to medical treatments for our illnesses.

For the rest:  http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2009/feb09/09-02-20.html

**Bloomberg Article:  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

Bolding mine.


BenJammin

Kind of a long read, but great article.  Of course, w/ Obama, there's no shortage of material... :hypocrite:




Why Obama Wants America to Fail

Kevin McCullough
Sunday, March 08, 2009


"Not letting a good crisis go to waste."

This idea popped up multiple times in the past seven days as multiple members of Obama's administration seemed to be in total agreement. Their conclusion: by not quickly solving the crisis of the American economy, we can create drastic social and structural change. Not surprisingly, this is the path even President Obama alluded to in his Saturday address to the nation.

On Saturday the President challenged his country to see its hard times as a chance to "discover great opportunity in the midst of great crisis."

"That is what we can do and must do today. And I am absolutely confident that is what we will do," Obama said in his address.

But is that what "we the people" hired him to do? To use "great opportunities" to change the face and fabric of the nation?

"We the People" were promised swift and effective action towards getting the markets repaired by President Obama, but they have dropped about 1400 points each week since he's taken power. "We the People" were promised greater fiscal responsibility by candidate Obama, yet his own proposals throw us down a black hole of debt, the likes of which we've never seen in a single year of an administration, much less in the first sixty days of one. "We the People" were promised the greatest commitment ever to oversight of the federal use of the money we send the government. What we've been handed is a series of embarrassing nominations of people who are willing to use the force of a gun to make you pay your taxes, but did not think twice about not paying theirs. "We the People" were told that his push for a stimulus would get people working again, yet barely 3% of it goes to actual job creation and projects that can even be initiated in the next 24 months. "We the People" were promised greater employment fulfillment and more vibrant business and economic outlooks when Obama's administration finally put together their plan to save the lending institutions. What we are dealing with is a greater spike in the unemployment numbers in Obama's first sixty days than was experienced under President Bush in his first seven years. "We the People" were promised an earmark free, pork free, bare bones budget, but as of last count Obama's omnibus bill contained 9200 earmarks.

So I don't find it surprising that recently even Obama supporters are now openly questioning his plan to revive the economy.

As of last month, we know that more than 55% of the American people wanted help for the economy to come primarily through the reduction of taxes. The same poll found that only a little over 20% think more government spending was the answer.

Whoopi Goldberg surprised even herself on The View this week, unintentionally criticizing President Obama's plan to tax the American people into better economic conditions. She doesn't believe that she should have to turn around and write a check to Washington DC for nearly 40% of what she earns.

Who could blame her?

Yet it is important to point out that there are now far more economists on record that have advised the President against larger government and pushed him towards tax relief, than those who supported the increased centralized control of a soft socialism that President Obama seems destined to aim for.

And "We the People" should be asking ourselves why?

If it makes no sense to the free market economists that populate the best economics programs across the nation, if it weakens the ability for the average family to make ends meet, and if it does not increase the number of people actually working, why is President Obama so stubbornly continuing to pursue his economically diabolical plan of destruction?

Because it's part of the master plan to "not let a good crisis go to waste."

President Obama knows the history of recessions and how Americans get out of them. He knows, for example, that if he gave back to the American family in just pure cash handouts what he is instead planning on taxing them (with interest) in the days to come, that the number would loom between $25,000-$65,000 per family, for every family in America.

But pretending to be doing something about the problem is only half the strategy for Obama. He truly intends to see socialized health care, and European styled labor agreements become reality in America. He knows the consequences of doing such things, he's seen all the projections and what the outcomes would be, but he's doing it anyway.

But there is one tiny problem standing in his way to getting there--"We The People!"

He knows that in order to be forced down paths that we don't wish to go, the only way he gets us to change our mind is to create abject suffering and misery.

Then in Venezuelan styled cries for help, he can promise to take America to a better place economically, a place of greater care, a place of true serenity. A place like Venezuela.

Rachel Maddow told Jay Leno this week that she found it "creepy" that someone would want the President's policies to fail.

I find it creepy that Rachel Maddow is so ignorant that she refuses to think analytically concerning her President's plans for this nation. After all she is one of us--"We The People."

President Obama and his team do not intend to solve this crisis as quickly as they possibly could--like he promised on the campaign trail. Instead, his intention is to let us bleed until the whimper we are expressing now finally builds into an all out, gut wrenching, cry of anguish. He does not care what must be done to arrive at that reality, only that we arrive there.

Many think the Obama administration is incompetent, and surely they've proved this, from the vetting of their appointments to handling the limited foreign relationships they've entertained thus far.

But on the domestic agenda they are as sly as foxes, and our future is the henhouse.

And in refusing to allow a "good crisis" to go to waste, the strategic move to remake Amerika anew has begun.

Copyright © 2009 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.

Source - http://townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2009/03/08/why_obama_wants_america_to_fail
"Small boys become big men through the influence of big men who care about small boys." ~Anonymous~

"Courage is not the absence of fear; rather the understanding that something else is more important than fear" ~Ambrose Redmoon~

Gingerale

really, i never like to get in the middle of things, but i will leave it at this: liberal people cling to liberal change. be democratic or republican. or even independant. vote how you wish and make snide comments. but in the end, people will see that a fad induced popularity contest got their country in a world of financial and economical loss. i am a politician's child. daddy was mayor, uncle was mayor, and cousin is now a texas state representative. all democratic. none voted for obama. *shrug*  which leads me to believe that not everyone is a hippy-minded individual, who votes for a man just because it is a "change" of pace. dig deeper. come on. only time will tell.

dnr1128

Even democrats have noticed that if George Bush had made the same comment about bowling and the special olympics that Obama made a few nights ago on Leno, he would have been tarred and feathered by the MSM.  But since the messiah is the one that said it, oh well he was just joking. 

George Bush isn't a polished public speaker;  that doesn't mean he's stupid or intellectually lacking.  It just means thats not his gig. 
Sow an action, reap a habit; sow a habit, reap a character; sow a character, reap a destiny.

Chérie

#19
I've volunteered for the Special Olympics and I work with the MHMR and I was not in the least offended by Obama's joke. I think it made him seem more human. I think we have all used the word "retard" at some point in our life. The term has really become part of our generations vocabulary. People make references to it all the time, without ever trying to be offensive to those with special needs.

religion, tv, and media have powerful effects on the way people see the world. - maynard james keenan

BenJammin

The question, Danielle, is not whether you were offended by Obama's use of this language, but would you have been offended if George Bush had used a similar euphemism?
"Small boys become big men through the influence of big men who care about small boys." ~Anonymous~

"Courage is not the absence of fear; rather the understanding that something else is more important than fear" ~Ambrose Redmoon~

BenJammin

"Small boys become big men through the influence of big men who care about small boys." ~Anonymous~

"Courage is not the absence of fear; rather the understanding that something else is more important than fear" ~Ambrose Redmoon~

BenJammin

"Small boys become big men through the influence of big men who care about small boys." ~Anonymous~

"Courage is not the absence of fear; rather the understanding that something else is more important than fear" ~Ambrose Redmoon~

BenJammin

Since this thread was originally about the presidents over-reliance on teleprompters, here's a cartoon that gets us back on topic.

"Small boys become big men through the influence of big men who care about small boys." ~Anonymous~

"Courage is not the absence of fear; rather the understanding that something else is more important than fear" ~Ambrose Redmoon~

bishopnl

Quote from: BenJammin on March 24, 2009, 12:31:00 PM
The question, Danielle, is not whether you were offended by Obama's use of this language, but would you have been offended if George Bush had used a similar euphemism?

I wasn't offended by Obama's comment, but the reason I wasn't offended and the reason many liberals aren't offended are totally different. 

Liberals aren't offended because of the One who said it.  These are the same people who said Sarah Palin's "Joe six-pack" and "Hockey mom" references were exclusionary because not everyone drinks beer and plays hockey.  Her white jacket was a subtle mark of racism.  Or remember Kanye West's "George Bush hates black people?" 

But Obama makes a blatant crack at the expense of the mentally handicapped, and no one cares.  On the one hand, I'm fine that nobody cares, because I don't--I don't think he meant anything by it.  On the other hand, it only reinforces my contempt for people who whine incessantly about any Republican or conservative who has made similar comments. 
~Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.~
- Mark Twain, a Biography

~There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.~

- James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788