Barack Obama is the 44th president of the USA

[dnr1128]

He's my president, and I'll pray for him. I wish him the best, and I pray that he turns to God for guidance. I know for certain that he cannot do this job on his own.. May God richly bless their family during this time!

I agree with you.  I don't agree with his campaign policies, but he's President, I don't forsee that changing, and if he has a failure as President, then the country would suffer as well, and I don't want to see that.  So for the sake of our nation, I hope he does well. 

[dnr1128]

For another perspective on maybe why we should NOT want him to succeed, view this video http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012209/content/01125108.guest.html and read this transcript http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html

[Sis]

I also hope he fails, but not so badly he takes all of us down the drain with him.

[dnr1128]

I hope his policies, if socialist and/or unConstitutional, fail.  But, who really knows.  NOthing any of us do really matters at this point. 

BTW, what is up with that picture of your feet?  Everytime I see it I think it's a picture of somebodys rumpus laying on a bed.  Julie thought the same thing too...

[Sis]

I hope his policies, if socialist and/or unConstitutional, fail.  But, who really knows.  NOthing any of us do really matters at this point. 

BTW, what is up with that picture of your feet?  Everytime I see it I think it's a picture of somebodys rumpus laying on a bed.  Julie thought the same thing too...

Dem's my purple fuzzy slipper socks. I wanted to identify with the purple fuzzy.

[dnr1128]

Oh.  Everytime I see it I think of the southern end of a northbound person laying over a bed.  Hm. 

[Sis]

     

[Chseeads]

Oh.  Everytime I see it I think of the southern end of a northbound person laying over a bed.  Hm. 

That's what I thought the first time I saw it...LOL...

[titushome]

I also hope he fails, but not so badly he takes all of us down the drain with him.

I hope his policies, if socialist and/or unConstitutional, fail.  But, who really knows.  NOthing any of us do really matters at this point. 

It's if he succeeds in implementing those policies that we'll all be going down the drain - they will do immense damage to this nation.

In that sense, I agree with Limbaugh - even though I think he said what he did mostly to make headlines.  (That's Limbaugh's way.)

[Sis]

True.  The other day they were talking on the radio about how he was all appearances. Having flags around him for show, and those slogans on podiums.

I've found throughout my life that if you're all show, there's very little substance.  But bubbleheads can cause damage, too. Just because they don't know what they're doing, they can throw monkey wrenches into the machinery.

Oh.  Everytime I see it I think of the southern end of a northbound person laying over a bed.  Hm. 

That's what I thought the first time I saw it...LOL...

Well, if it is, it's a skinny one.

[dnr1128]

I'm not really sure what I want from his administration.  If he succeeds in implementing even half of the stuff he talked about during his campaign, he would succeed in changing this nation in such a manner as to make it impossible to rectify.  I'm kinda starting to see some trends in the media that the honeymoon may be very shortlived.  Really, I expect him to be a liberal, but not as radically liberal as some want him to be.  Public opinion can change radically, and there's a fine line between love and hate;  all the people who were worshipping him as their savior during the campaign could very easily turn against him if the bread and circuses stop. 

[Sis]

I'm sooooo tempted to...................

Sure! I'll treat Obama with the same respect as the liberals treated Bush!

The quote is from someplace else. Not here.

[dnr1128]

And Rush makes that point in the second of the two links I posted above;  the liberals are telling conservatives that we should give him a chance, but they didn't get Bush a chance in 2001.  But, I don't know of any realistic conservative that expects liberals to NOT hold a double standard.

[Melody]

US will now fund abortion clinics globally...

Obama lifts restrictions on abortion funding By Jeff Mason and Deborah Charles Jeff Mason And Deborah Charles – Fri Jan 23, 8:12 pm ET


WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama on Friday lifted restrictions on U.S. government funding for groups that provide abortion services or counseling abroad, reversing a policy of his Republican predecessor George W. Bush.

The Democratic president's decision was a victory for advocates of abortion rights on an issue that in recent years has become a tit-for-tat policy change each time the White House shifts from one party to the other.

When the ban was in place, no U.S. government funding for family planning services could be given to clinics or groups that offered abortion services or counseling in other countries, even if the funds for those activities came from non-U.S. government sources.

"For the past eight years, (the restrictions) have undermined efforts to promote safe and effective voluntary family planning in developing countries," Obama said in a statement.

"It is right for us to rescind this policy and restore critical efforts to protect and empower women and promote global economic development."

In contrast to his executive order to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, which he signed in a ceremony before journalists, the president issued this order quietly and the White House released a statement at 7 p.m. EST/2400 GMT.

The decision has been called the Mexico City Policy because it was unveiled at a United Nations conference there in 1984 and became one of the centerpiece social positions of the administration of then-President Ronald Reagan, a Republican.

Critics call it the "gag rule" because it cuts funds to groups that advocate lifting abortion restrictions, which critics say means it blocks free speech. They say it reduced healthcare for some of the world's poorest women.

Planned Parenthood, a health care provider and advocacy group for abortion rights, welcomed the move in a statement.

"No longer will health care providers be forced to choose between receiving family planning funding and restricting the health care services they provide to women," it said.

CRITICS ON BOTH SIDES

Anti-abortion activists criticized Obama.

"When we wake up every morning to a deepening financial crisis, it is an insult to the American people to bail out the abortion industry," said Charmaine Yoest, president of Americans United for Life.

"Planned Parenthood is a billion-dollar company and they do not need additional resources to burden the American taxpayer."

Former President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, rescinded the rule when he took office in January 1993 and his successor, Republican George W. Bush, reinstated it in January 2001.

Obama said he wanted to depoliticize the topic and directed his staff to reach out to people on both sides to work on reducing unintended pregnancies.

He also promised to work with Congress to resume funding to the U.N. Population Fund.

U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell expressed disapproval. "I have long supported the Mexico City Policy and believe this administration's decision to be counter to our nation's interests," he said in a statement.

The United States spends more than $400 million on overseas family planning assistance each year.

Critics of the funding ban say the anti-abortion restrictions have resulted in huge drops for funding worldwide to organizations that provide family-planning services and basic healthcare. They say this means many women are deprived of contraception and other health services in poor countries, leading to back-alley abortions and deaths.

The Center for Reproductive Rights says, for example, that in Ethiopia and Lesotho, some nongovernmental organizations are no longer able to offer comprehensive and integrated healthcare services to patients suffering from HIV/AIDS.

Abortion rights opponents and groups who support the Mexico City Policy dispute the view that it has led to an increase of illegal abortions or deaths overseas.

Unlike Clinton and Bush, Obama did not act on the rule on the January 22 anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the landmark 1973 Supreme Court ruling that made abortions legal throughout the United States.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090124/ts_nm/us_obama_abortion

[Chérie]

hopefully the next step will be medicaid extending the coverage of the cost of abortion for mothers who have nonviable pregnancies...

[Brother Dad]

hopefully the next step will be medicaid extending the coverage of the cost of abortion for mothers who have nonviable pregnancies...

I am against our tax dollars been used for any type of abortion or capital punishment for that matter.  I can not see how murder will help the economy.

[Melody]

as soon as FOCA has or does pass, the government will fund any abortion, reguardless of circumstances.  The % of non-viable pregnancies is a drop in the horse trough of millions of healthy ones brutally terminated.  And makes such a statement moot.  It's sad that people buy into that. 

As if the handful somehow validates the many murdered.

No, the next step is to be like China and kill the babies after their born full term because they don't fit the "family planning."

[Brother Dad]

The next step will be to let medicaid pay for terminating our elderly so they will not be a burden on our welfare system.  What keep paying for someone to have good health when they will no longer be able to work and contrite to society.   

[Chérie]

medicaid already pays for a type of partial birth abortion with nonviable pregnancies. what makes early termination any different?

[Sis]

Because I don't want our tax dollars used to kill babies.  passed away babies aren't the same as partial birth abortions. They don't have to kill it when it's half way out of the body.

Taking a passed away baby isn't abortion.

[Chérie]

what do you mean by passed away?

and if the baby is going to die in the end anyway why should the mother have to suffer 9 months of pregnancy knowing she is going to give birth to a baby that is just going to die and that is if the child even survives the labor?

i'm playing devils advocate of course, and if i could go back and do it all differently i probably would. i wish i had the mental capabilities to have carried hannah full term, but at the time i didn't. bottom line, it wasn't an elective procedure on my part. but medicaid had different ideas and apparently it was acceptable to end a pregnancy at 7 months but not at 4. that thinking is illogical to me.

basically my options were abortion clinic or thousands of dollars in hospital fees. i felt like my baby was worth the money.

[Sis]

I wanted to use the term stillborn but that wasn't right. Don't know how else to put it. Died in the womb and had to be surgically removed.

If a baby was really that sick, he might expel himself anyway.

I know a woman who was told that her baby only had 1/3 of a brain. That IF the baby lived it wouldn't ever be able to feel or know anything. She had the baby, worried the whole time, prayed a lot.

The baby was born normal, and not only that, he's at the top of his class and one of the brightest kids in his class.

Doctors don't always know, and God can step in at any time. Now, if she had aborted the baby like they were pressuring her, she would have never known this intelligent, friendly, cute little boy who is now about 10 or 11 years old without any health problems except normal childhood illnesses.

[titushome]

My wife and I have some friends who, with their second pregnancy, were told by the woman's doctor that the baby had a number of health issues - Turner's syndrome, heart problems, possible mental deficiencies.  On several occasions they were offered the option to terminate the pregnancy.

A few months ago their beautiful baby girl was born.  And yes, she has Turner's syndrome, but none of the other diagnoses were correct.

This sort of thing makes me wonder 1. how many expecting parents believe that a person is less valuable because he or she has a condition or disease, and 2. how many expecting parents have aborted their babies, healthy or unhealthy, because of this belief.  We can marvel at the instances in which perfectly healthy children are born, despite the doctors' predictions, but the truth is that even if the doctors are correct the babies' lives are no less valuable, and do not deserve termination.

[Brother Dad]

My wife and I have some friends who, with their second pregnancy, were told by the woman's doctor that the baby had a number of health issues - Turner's syndrome, heart problems, possible mental deficiencies.  On several occasions they were offered the option to terminate the pregnancy.

A few months ago their beautiful baby girl was born.  And yes, she has Turner's syndrome, but none of the other diagnoses were correct.

This sort of thing makes me wonder 1. how many expecting parents believe that a person is less valuable because he or she has a condition or disease, and 2. how many expecting parents have aborted their babies, healthy or unhealthy, because of this belief.  We can marvel at the instances in which perfectly healthy children are born, despite the doctors' predictions, but the truth is that even if the doctors are correct the babies' lives are no less valuable, and do not deserve termination.

I agree whole heartily.  I have a brother that had a son born without anything wrong with him.  At five months old he got meningitis.  He went into a comma  for a few days. When he came out his brain was damaged.  He was never able to stand, walk or talk.  He was severely mentally retarded.  Michael lived to be fourteen years old.  Never able to lead a normal life.  But yet for fourteen years he brought joy to the family.  For fourteen years he was cared for and loved.  What would have been the difference in when he was five months old, saying he will never walk or talk.  He will never have a chance to live a full life.  We might as well end his life now and save all the trouble down the road.  Is this not the same as aborting babies because they won't be healthy. 

I also know of a preacher who has CP.  The doctors told his family he would never walk or talk.  He does both.  They told them he would live but a few days.  He is now 49 years old.  It is amazing what God can do when people put their trust in Him and not what the doctors say.     

[Chérie]

My wife and I have some friends who, with their second pregnancy, were told by the woman's doctor that the baby had a number of health issues - Turner's syndrome, heart problems, possible mental deficiencies.  On several occasions they were offered the option to terminate the pregnancy.

A few months ago their beautiful baby girl was born.  And yes, she has Turner's syndrome, but none of the other diagnoses were correct.

This sort of thing makes me wonder 1. how many expecting parents believe that a person is less valuable because he or she has a condition or disease, and 2. how many expecting parents have aborted their babies, healthy or unhealthy, because of this belief.  We can marvel at the instances in which perfectly healthy children are born, despite the doctors' predictions, but the truth is that even if the doctors are correct the babies' lives are no less valuable, and do not deserve termination.

most people pray for a healthy baby. i was to the point i was praying she had anything that she could live with.

before i went into labor, i was talking to the nurses asking them what sort of situations they had seen. i was told that some babies were born with just a body - no head. they mentioned some babies just being born with an arm, no head, no torso an arm. in those situations - its not that the parent does not value the life of their baby - that absolutely was not the case for me - but asking the mother to continue carrying a child that she is going to have to bury after birth is mentally cruel.(and i'm talking about 0% chance of life expectancy, not situations where the child will be born with a birth defect or has a greater chance of life expectancy.)

i know in my situation i wasn't sleeping, and when i did manage to fall asleep i woke up screaming. i stopped eating. i was mourning the loss of my child. looking back now, i believe i probably could have continued the pregnancy but at the time it would have mentally broke me to the point that i probably would have been committed.