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Title: When ?
Post by: EmmazMommy on January 22, 2007, 03:54:20 PM
When did/will you break your child(ren) from the bottle? and pacifier?

i was told not to break emma from bottle until after her teeth came in, but she still has NO teeth and she will be a year in less than 2 weeks. I dont want to let her get all attached to it, because i dont want it to be a fight taking it from her? so is this good advice? should i go ahead and start breaking her?

Pacifier, i just want to know lol
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: *Christi* on January 22, 2007, 03:59:42 PM
I have never heard that about waiting until they had teeth!!  What's the logic behind that??

With my boys I started weaning them from the bottle at 11 months.  Noah was completely weaned by 11 1/2 months and Isaac was completely weaned just before his birthday.  I would replace a bottle with a cup of milk.  My Dr said to replace a bottle a week but Noah did so well that we went much faster with him.  His bedtime bottle (never in bed or to go to sleep though) was the hardest to break him of... I had to start giving him a bedtime snack.

With the paci's... I read the book and generally follow Baby Talk.  They say to take the paci away at 9 months.  Both of my boys were teething at 9 months and had these cool teething paci's so I waited until that passed.  They were both off their paci's by 10 months.  With Noah we just went cold turkey and within a day or so he was fine.  With Isaac we took away his daytime paci's and then worked on his sleeptime paci's.  Isabelle doesn't take a paci so I don't have to worry about that with her.  She does s*ck her thumb though and I have no idea what to do about that!!  LOL  She only s*cks it when she's tired, sleeping or if you don't feed her fast enough!!  LOL
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Melody on January 22, 2007, 04:08:54 PM
I don't know who told you that teeth thing.  I was told that it should stop as soon as possible so that they aren't using it when their teeth are coming in.  I nursed so I went from breast to sippy cup with few bottles in between.

I will never forget the disgusting pictures they had in the DR. and WIC office of children who had bottles too long.  The teeth were horrible.  Of course that's worse case scenario but  ugh *shiver*  It apparently isn't conducive to healthy tooth growth. 

I'm sure some of the other mamas here have more accurate medical info though...lol

(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:aIJ-P0svsUPv0M:http://dentistry.ouhsc.edu/intranet-WEB/Courses/DSA8212/Images/33.jpeg)  Baby Bottle Syndrome
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Jennie-lynnie on January 22, 2007, 04:14:07 PM
ewwwwww. That's aweful looking!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Melody on January 22, 2007, 04:16:21 PM
I don't think it's just about how long your baby takes a bottle but how long they sit with a bottle in their mouth each time also.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: *Christi* on January 22, 2007, 04:21:44 PM
Yes, that's why they aren't to sleep with a bottle.  That's also possibly due to putting other drinks besides formula in the bottle, such as juice, koolaid, pop, etc.  Much too sugary to be sitting on the teeth like that.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: littlegal on January 22, 2007, 04:40:34 PM
I follow about the same timeline as Christi for breaking bottles and paci's.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: acjmom on January 22, 2007, 04:58:43 PM
allowing bottles/pacifiers for an extended time after teeth are coming in can also cause a child to be buck-toothed (thumb-sucking does the same).  as far as rotting teeth, like in that pic, it tends to happen when a child is allowed to run around with a bottle all day every day (and sleeping with a bottle in the crib).  they are constantly sipping on it and yes, the teeth are constantly exposed to too much sugar.  the same thing can happen with a sippy cup if you allow your child to basically use it like a security blanket.  they call it "baby bottle syndrome" because it happens more frequently with bottles.... cups tend to be given primarily with meals.

my kids were all off bottles between 12-18 months, and off pacifiers around 4 months.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: EmmazMommy on January 22, 2007, 05:07:52 PM
as far as the bottle goes, they said that because before teeth, thats pretty much what they "eat" is the milk from their bottle. but in my opinion u can give em a cup of milk....

Paci, im fixing to take from her completely, shes not using it that much anywyay, she chews on it more than anything.
Bottle, she only takes at bedtime. not in bed, just before she goes to sleep
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: EmmazMommy on January 22, 2007, 05:18:52 PM
the biggest reason i havent taken her off of the paci is because i have traveled SOOOO much since she was born. and she was fine in the car as long as she had her pacifier. and it kept me sane when i was driving right at 500 miles every 4 days :)

Her bottle, as i said, she only uses at bedtime. not in her bed, but she drinks it as she goes to sleep. but i am fixing to switch that to a cup and see how that works.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: acjmom on January 22, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Quote from: EmmazMommy on January 22, 2007, 05:07:52 PM
as far as the bottle goes, they said that because before teeth, thats pretty much what they "eat" is the milk from their bottle. but in my opinion u can give em a cup of milk....

that's kinda crazy cuz it's not like you're taking away the food.... you're just changing the delivery method.  nothing wrong with putting the milk/formula in a cup  ;)
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: myhaloisintheshop on January 22, 2007, 05:45:03 PM
And I'm sure milk isn't all she is getting anyway--doesn't she eat baby food?
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: *Christi* on January 22, 2007, 05:57:16 PM
Exactly Sarah!!  As a matter of fact, isn't she probably getting mostly table food now??  Isabelle is eating the stage 3 foods and is starting to get alot of table foods and she only just got her first tooth!!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: NessasMama on January 22, 2007, 07:22:48 PM
I've never heard that about the teeth either. The only thing I was warned against was letting them take it to bed with anything besides water in it.

Both of my children were off the bottle the day of their first birthday. I started them on a sippy cup at about 7 or 8 months old.

Neither of my kids took a pacifier. Janessa would * Wash my mouth out with soap * hers so hard that it would fly out of her mouth and gl flying through the air!!!!!!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: EmmazMommy on January 22, 2007, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: myhaloisintheshop on January 22, 2007, 05:45:03 PM
And I'm sure milk isn't all she is getting anyway--doesn't she eat baby food?

No she dont eat baby food, she only eats table foods
She eats, steaks, chicken nuggets, grilled cheese, anything i eat basically :)
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Arctic Rose on January 22, 2007, 07:27:03 PM
The only thing my boys were allowed to have in the bottle at night time was water. I broke that a little after they were 3 to 4 months after turning one.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Jennie-lynnie on January 22, 2007, 07:34:14 PM
I won't have to worry about the paci with Noah thankfully. He has never wanted anything to do with one.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: myhaloisintheshop on January 22, 2007, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: EmmazMommy on January 22, 2007, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: myhaloisintheshop on January 22, 2007, 05:45:03 PM
And I'm sure milk isn't all she is getting anyway--doesn't she eat baby food?

No she dont eat baby food, she only eats table foods
She eats, steaks, chicken nuggets, grilled cheese, anything i eat basically :)

I assumed she wasnt eating that kind of stuff without teeth...lol
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: EmmazMommy on January 22, 2007, 07:38:03 PM
yea, its funny to see but she does lol !

Im not even kidding, steak, brisket, chicken nuggets, and of course she LOVES veggies!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: randerzforya on January 22, 2007, 08:24:21 PM
Ethan gave up his pacifier when he was about 5 months old and wouldn't take it back.
With the bottle he gave it up around 9 1/2 months..he thinks he's a big boy, so when he sees us doing/not doing something he wants to be just like us! lol Lucky for us I think! My best friend's daughter is very attatched to both her pacifier and bottle and they don't have the heart to make her cry it out.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: littlegal on January 22, 2007, 09:45:55 PM
Anthany has two teeth on the bottom front. I started last week giving him more solid table foods and he can gum it up!  I give him tiny little pieces and he eats it with no problem.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Jennie-lynnie on January 22, 2007, 09:51:26 PM
Noah just started eating baby food about 2-3 weeks ago. And he is such a pig. And thank God he's not picky. So far he has loved everything he's tried... sweet potatoes, green beans, peas, bananas, pears, and apple-blueberry. The apple blue-berry is the newest one he's tried.  He just started juice as well and loves it so far! But as of now he's only had apple, and orange. I'm so glad he's not a picky eater... my neice would only eat the sweet potoatoe and apple-blueberry. And now at age three pretty much the only thing she'll touch is chips, pop-tarts, chicken nuggets, peanutbutter toast and tater tots! Oh and of course candy and cookies! lol
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: randerzforya on January 22, 2007, 09:53:08 PM
lol That doesn't sound too good for her teeth! If Ethan had sugar there would be no way I could keep up with him!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Jennie-lynnie on January 22, 2007, 09:55:24 PM
She's a little spoiled! lol. She's 3 (Well feb 14th she'll be 3) and isn't even potty trained. Has NEVER went on her potty. And I opened the lid and said "you wanna use your potty today?" And she replied "NO" And slammed the lid as hard as she could! LOL
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: randerzforya on January 22, 2007, 10:04:14 PM
 :biglaugh: That's funny! Ethan is obsessed with the toilet (I know, gross, right?!), so I don't think we'll have a hard time potty training him. He already takes his diaper off (or tries to) when he has to use the bathroom..he does NOT want that mess on him! lol I don't blame him a bit, but it does stink when he pees before I can get it back on him!! Thank goodness he's only done the number 2 once outside of his diaper, that would just be too much!

I'm thinking about going and buying a potty and setting it out just so he can get used to it, and if he wants to use it, he can, and if not, no pressure.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: *Christi* on January 22, 2007, 11:49:21 PM
Isabelle loves table food!!  I gave her some whole wheat pasta the other day and she was loving it!!  LOL  Josh was giving her little bits of chicken too!!  If you think about it, you don't chew with your front teeth though so why does it matter if they have teeth to eat anyway, right?  I'm gonna buy her some yogurt at the store today.  Noah used to just LOVE yogurt!

Hey Jennie, I thought you weren't supposed to do citrus fruits until after a year because of the acid or something??  Referring to the orange juice.. Just wondering if maybe I'm crazy... LOL
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Chseeads on January 23, 2007, 04:19:38 AM
Quote from: CRStrom on January 22, 2007, 11:49:21 PM
Just wondering if maybe I'm crazy... LOL

Well if that's all you're uncertain of, allow us to put your mind at ease......
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: acjmom on January 23, 2007, 03:09:32 PM
your not supposed to give 'em orange juice until after the first birthday cuz there's some kind of disorder it can cause...... i'm thinking reye's syndrome?  i'm not sure though.... maybe that's the one from raw honey  :-\
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: littlegal on January 24, 2007, 05:11:12 PM
I've been giving anthany the baby yogurt, he loves it.
I also started giving him the diced baby food this week.  He is doing pretty well with that too.

He'll eat anything i give him.  Sometime he doesnt' like something, will make horrible faces, but he still keeps eating it!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: acjmom on January 24, 2007, 06:17:21 PM
all of mine did that too when they were babies, but once they went to only table food they got super picky  :smirk2:  abigail started coming out of the pickiness around 4 or 5, and i'm hoping and praying that jolie & jonas do too.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: littlegal on January 24, 2007, 07:01:21 PM
Now that Westley is 5, he's just now started to be picky.  He used to would eat anything, now he adds daily to his list of things he doesn't like.  The good thing about him though, he'll try anything at least once, and most of his favorite foods are healthy foods.

When zakary was a baby, he would eat anything and everything.  Then about the time he turned 2, he got extremely picky.  There is only a few things he will eat, and it's mostly junk food. 
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: *Christi* on January 24, 2007, 07:09:20 PM
Noah can be extrememly picky.  It drives me crazy!!  I have to force him to eat healthy food.  Yesterday I decided he needed to have oatmeal for breakfast.  It took over an hour of fighting but he ate it all.  And then asked for oatmeal this morning and gobbled up two helpings!!  LOL

Isaac is a pig and will eat anything you put in front of him!!  I love that!! I was afraid he would be like Noah but he's not.  As a matter of fact, sometimes we can use Isaac to get Noah to eat!!  LOL "Look Noah, Isaac LOOOOVES vegetables, don't you want some?"!!  LOL

Isabelle seems to like most foods... she won't eat carrots but I think it's the texture.  She had yogurt for the first time today and just loved it!!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: myhaloisintheshop on January 24, 2007, 07:52:55 PM
Chase is super picky.  One day I got so aggravated and told him to make me a list of the foods he doesn't like.  Bryen said  The lists of foods he does like is shorter--maybe he should write that one down for ya.

Bryen is starting to not like some things.  He doesn't care for spagetti or things with a lot of cheese.  Other than that he isn't picky.

Dylan is only picky when it comes to sandwiches.  No cheese, no mayo, no mustard.

Eric isn't picky at all.  I love it!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Jennie-lynnie on January 25, 2007, 11:06:06 AM
About the orange juice. I'm new at all this.. never done it before! lol. All I know to do is whatever my doc tells me. Or what I read. She said oj was fine and I haven't read anything about it. But then again I never knew to look for an article about it! But since ya'll have had babies before... I have no doubt that you are right. I'll have to look something up on that asap. Don't wanna give my Noah something that could harm him! Thanks so much!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: myhaloisintheshop on January 25, 2007, 02:15:47 PM
And Jenny it may in fact be alright now.    Sometimes they do more research and retract what they said was potientally harmful.   I heard the OJ thing when Bryen was a baby but not so much when Eric was. 
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: acjmom on January 25, 2007, 02:45:39 PM
it also may be something like, no fresh squeezed oj but the pasturized store-bought stuff is ok (or vice versa).... i dunno for sure.  i never fully checked it out.... just didn't give it to 'em cuz the doc said no cow's milk, oj, or raw honey until past the 1st birthday.  i know the milk thing is just cuz cow's milk can be difficult for them to digest prior to one year.  between the honey and oj, i think one was supposed to cause botulism, and the other was rye's syndrome.  haven't checked it out recently though.... happy hunting  :teeth:
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: littlegal on January 25, 2007, 03:01:57 PM
Honey is linked to botulism.

I would think the acid in the orange juice would be hard on his stomach at that age.  It might cause diarrhea and  a diaper rash.  But if it's watered down good enough, i guess it's ok.  If it hasn'tbothered him yet.  I've just never seen OJ in the baby juices.  I figured there was probably a reason for that :grin:

I make most of Anthany's baby food.  I thought about corn, but i noticed in the baby food, you never seen corn.  I asked the nutritionist about it and she said the reason is because it is hard to digest and has almost no nutrional value.  Corn goes straight through the system.  So I didn't make him any.    Anyway, my point is that before I make something for Anthany (juice or food) I check the baby food aisle and see what is available.  I figure that is the stuff that is good for him to eat, so that's what i make.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: Jennie-lynnie on January 25, 2007, 04:26:28 PM
Well I guess mostly I figured it was safe because we got it in the baby aisle. It is the Gerber 100% juice. Which is what the doctor said to give him. So I figured if Gerber put it out in the baby juice it would be safe.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: *Christi* on January 25, 2007, 05:36:19 PM
I was reading up on the OJ thing and it's actually not recommended until 9months to a year due to allergy problems.  Obviously he has had no problems so you are probably just fine to give it to him.  I have never seen OJ in the baby food stuff either.  I do know that I gave Noah hawaiian delight and he projectile vomited THAT all over me so I didn't give him any more citrus fruit until he was like 18 months!!  Now he's fine with it.

There's been a huge discussion recently on one of my parenting message boards about strawberries.  They are HIGHLY allergenic and most Drs don't reccomend feeding strawberries until at least a year, yet there are TONS of gerber baby foods that have strawberries in them.  Isn't that stupid??

Oh and Kimberly, on the baby yogurt.  I read that you don't have to buy the specific "baby yogurt", just have to be sure that it is made with whole milk and doesn't have too much extra sugar.  Of course, I stood in the yogurt section of my grocery store forever one day reading all the labels and didn't find ANY with whole milk... all with either low fat or skim.  But just to keep in mind.  Oh and I just learned that recently... I used to feed Noah regular old yogurt but I guess they (especially my skinny kids) need the fats in the whole milk.

They definitely change the food recommendations and regulations all the time... it's hard to stay up to date!!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: nicolejoy on January 25, 2007, 05:53:33 PM
Ash had a really funny situation when she was young (maybe only two) when she projectile vomited strawberries all over Ant's tan coloured sweater at the zoo!! but she wasn't allergic, it was just a one-off thing...

I saw a baby almost choke on a piece of mango one time - it's meant to be OK because it's so soft (apparently) but this baby had it stuck and couldn't/didn't swallow!!
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: littlegal on January 25, 2007, 09:00:44 PM
Westley just recently had an allergic reaction, we're assuming to his antibiotic, omnicef.  It is flavored with strawberries and i wondered if that is actually what caused the reaction.  I've been thinking about giving hiim strawberries to see.  He's eaten strawberries before and they didn't bother him, but he had also had that antibiotic before and it not bother him.

I noticed the baby yogurt i bought said it was made with whole milk.  It was the same price as regular yogurt, so i figured i might as well buy it as opposed to the regular.  I got the yobaby, it also has fruit and cereal in it. He likes it really well

(http://www.stonyfield.com/images/products06/yobaby_group_10-06.jpg)
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: *Christi* on January 25, 2007, 11:55:29 PM
Yeah, that's the kind that I bought too but it's much more expensive than the regular or even the "kids" yogurt at our stores... hmmm!!

On the allergy... didn't I read somewhere recently that it actually takes more than one exposure to something to show it's allergy??
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: nicolejoy on January 26, 2007, 12:54:49 AM
Quote from: littlegal on January 25, 2007, 09:00:44 PM
Westley just recently had an allergic reaction, we're assuming to his antibiotic, omnicef.  It is flavored with strawberries and i wondered if that is actually what caused the reaction.  I've been thinking about giving hiim strawberries to see.  He's eaten strawberries before and they didn't bother him, but he had also had that antibiotic before and it not bother him.

I would think it's more likely to be a reaction to something else rather than the flavouring - probably the actual drug... But you could always give him a strawberry to check... what was his reaction to it??
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: acjmom on January 26, 2007, 09:07:01 PM
usually medications aren't flavored with actual strawberries, etc. .... it's something artificial.  was it colored kim?  could be the actual medicine, or the dye.  if it was strawberry flavor, i would imagine it had red dye which is a very common allergy for kids.
Title: Re: When ?
Post by: littlegal on January 26, 2007, 11:10:27 PM
The ads for omnicef always feature strawberries and information about strawberries, that why i though it might be real strawberries instead of a strawberry flavoring.

Whatever was wrong with him, he itched constantly for close to 3 weeks straight.  Two different doctors couldn't come up with any reason for the itching they both just said it was probably the omnicef, even though the itching started the day after he finished the antibiotic and last for 3 weeks after.  There wasn't anything else we could find that could have been causing it.   They figured it was probably the medicine because it can stay in the system for a long time after it is finished.