K... So been pondering for the last 26 yrs (yes I was a avid ponderer at a early age... things like why is my sippy cup blue instead of red? Why Pampers? Do I have to kiss my little sister in this picture for Oma? What is a Oma? Where did my did little sister come from? Where's daddy?) Lol...
Why are the wedding traditions that we have, the ones we have?
Are all wedding traditions good?
How big should a wedding be?
How much should someone spend?
Should they go into debt for one?
Should they go into debt for a honeymoon?
Which church should host the wedding?
Does it have to be held inside a church?
How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning?
Is a dress other than white bad?
Why White? (Hint: The color of purity has not always been white!)
What about the food, does it have to be catered or can it be something else?
What about dancing at the reception?
And a plethora of others that I may post as this one takes off, should anyone decide to comment... :lol:
I have come to my own conclusion on these and more over the last 26 years... among others... but curious as to what everyone else has to say about it. And since not everyone on here is single, I though some insight from the married people would be of value as well... :lol:
Are all wedding traditions good? Depends on your point of view.
How big should a wedding be? As big or as small as the groom and bride want and can afford.
How much should someone spend? As much or as little as they think is wise.
Should they go into debt for one? No, it is a day, and you are starting a life together, I do not think it would be wise to go into debt for. Well depending on how much debt I guess.
Should they go into debt for a honeymoon? No, you are starting the rest of your life together, there will be plenty of vacations. Just be sure it is something you both will like.
Which church should host the wedding? Depends.
Does it have to be held inside a church? I have some friends that argue that it must, I would say it all depends on the couple.
How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning? As much as he would like, and she will allow.
Is a dress other than white bad? Depends on one's point of view.
Why White? (Hint: The color of purity has not always been white!) Tradition. Especially now days when non pure brides where white.
What about the food, does it have to be catered or can it be something else? Either is fine. Something else probably would be cheaper.
What about dancing at the reception? For me, no, but not all have the same view.
I think the main answer I have is, it all depends on the two getting married. I think if a guy gets involved in the planning of the wedding and has complementary ideas and is supportive, his spouse would probably value that, however, if he is going to argue a lot, or joke too much, then it probably would not be wise.
Although wedding planning probably can tell one even more about a person and how strong willed or profectionistic they are.
:popcorn:
White was a sign of wealth, not purity. Only someone with money could afford to have a white dress to only wear once. Typically you needed your clothes to be multitasking and not show all the dirt.
Queen Victoria is generally considered to have started the white dress craze, she wore white to match some lace she had, it then caught on with wealthy brides in the victorian era -which chastity and prudishness were quite "in" during the Victorian era so its easy to see how it also got associated with purity - otherwise brides wore all sorts of colors and this little saying was popular (anyone who read little house on the prairie might remember it, Laura got married in black):
“Married in white, you will have chosen all right. Married in grey, you will go far away. Married in black, you will wish yourself back. Married in red, you’ll wish yourself dead. Married in blue, you will always be true. Married in pearl, you’ll live in a whirl. Married in green, ashamed to be seen. Married in yellow, ashamed of the fellow. Married in brown, you’ll live out of town. Married in pink, your spirits will sink.”
Personally I think its silly to have the color of the dress represent whether a girl is "pure" or not, seriously MYOB. I'm glad we're moving away from that - a girl should be able to wear a color dress that compliments her skin tone without setting off wagging tongues that she's not pure... likewise she should be able to wear a stark white dress without someone bringing up her past.
Weddings in the bible had wine and dancing and jewish weddings are typically great parties... I want a biblical wedding reception ;)
I plan on getting married in the park, permits are cheap and you don't need decorations
Quote from: Amelia Bedelia on February 22, 2010, 02:53:43 AM
"Married in white, you will have chosen all right. Married in grey, you will go far away. Married in black, you will wish yourself back. Married in red, you'll wish yourself dead. Married in blue, you will always be true. Married in pearl, you'll live in a whirl. Married in green, ashamed to be seen. Married in yellow, ashamed of the fellow. Married in brown, you'll live out of town. Married in pink, your spirits will sink."
The choices aren't all that great, are they. ;)
:grin: hmmm...
Why are the wedding traditions that we have, the ones we have?
Uhh... I suppose because the traditions that are in your life are the ones you see in your own family/circle of friends, and choose to adopt into your own life.
Are all wedding traditions good?
No. I have a personal aversion to a number of them. One of which is throwing a garter. *shudder* Have you ever looked at the origins of that one? *gag*
Obviously, I have no strong feelings on the matter. :D
How big should a wedding be?
Big enough to include the people most important to both of you.
How much should someone spend?
Enough to make a (reasonable) lovely memory for the couple without blowing their budget. (And don't try to make it The Event of the Year. Trust me - your friends will NOT be impressed in a good way. And yes, I could tell you stories for this one. *lol*)
Should they go into debt for one?
Definitely NOT.
Should they go into debt for a honeymoon?
Definitely NOT.
Which church should host the wedding?
Whichever church (or non-church) the couple decides on.
Does it have to be held inside a church?
Of course not.
(If you wanna argue that one, take it up with Jesus. He seemed fine with weddings held in homes and outside. *grin*)
How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning?
As much as the bride, and twice as much as the bride's mother. ;)
Is a dress other than white bad?
Nope. But you better be prepared to deal with rumors should you choose another color. :)
Why White? (Hint: The color of purity has not always been white!)
To show off how wealthy your dad is, of course! *cough grin*
What about the food, does it have to be catered or can it be something else?
Who says you have to have food? Really now... :roll: :grin:
What about dancing at the reception?
Absolutely - if we're talking about the flower girl twirling in her new shoes and dress. Or a happy bride dancing over to hug a friend she hasn't seen in a long time. Or a little grandma delighted with her new grandson-in-law. The rest of it you'll have to figure out for yourself. ;)
:beret:
Basically, the "purity" meant she hadn't been married before, and she's not pregnant or have a child. Other than that, they assumed the bride wore white because she was pure.
In China red means purity. The girls from Taiwan couldn't tell me why, but they said they found white to be a boring color for such an occasion.
There is an argument for the bride being free to wear whatever she wanted to wear. Besides, if there is no kid within 9 months of the wedding day, then the questions should die down quickly. LOL
But that is an issue for Women.
So the question is, do any of you know why the groom wears a black suit (same color he would wear to a funeral)
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How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning?
As much as the bride, and twice as much as the bride's mother.
:laughhard:
:hands over mouth:
Why are the wedding traditions that we have, the ones we have? Interestingly enough, most of the customs came about to ensure good luck
Are all wedding traditions good? Depends on the tradition
How big should a wedding be? As big as y'all can afford
How much should someone spend? As much as you can afford
Should they go into debt for one? no...as much as I personally am a sucker for the big fancy weddings, it's not worth the financial tension later in your marriage
Should they go into debt for a honeymoon? No...see above
Which church should host the wedding? Discuss that between yourselves....she may insist her home wedding, he may insist his
Does it have to be held inside a church? No...it's not necessary for it to be held in a church.....just do major research about the venue before you do get hitched there
How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning? depends if he's gonna be a help or a hinderance....if he's gonna be a pain, it's best if he disappears unless it's tux fittings...until the day comes
Is a dress other than white bad? Originally, blue was the symbol of purity....but if it's your first wedding....best to stick to the classics
Why White? (Hint: The color of purity has not always been white!) I think it was Anne of Pomerania? It started before Queen Victoria.... who started the trend and it picked up from there
What about the food, does it have to be catered or can it be something else? If you want to cater it yourself to save on expense - invite as few people as possible...or your caterer/friend may throw in the towel.
What about dancing at the reception? It depends on your point of view....i'm half Greek, so I don't think I'd be able to get away with no dancing at all at mine. Do the bridal waltz, though....no-one else has to dance....but I think the bridal waltz is cool. Will post more after I've done some research
Why are the wedding traditions that we have, the ones we have? They evolved out of other ones!
Are all wedding traditions good? Not sure but the cake CANNOT be taken out of the traditions. It's the most important part!
How big should a wedding be? As big as the arena where it's held can handle.
How much should someone spend? More than one has. It's the American way!
Should they go into debt for one? Of course! It's an American tradition, for the parents to spend more than they have!
Should they go into debt for a honeymoon? Everyone else does, why not?
Which church should host the wedding? One where you don't know anyone. Less invitations have to go out.
Does it have to be held inside a church? Outside is nice, too.
How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning? None. He shows up with his parents and the ring.
Is a dress other than white bad? Black dress for the woman and a white suit for the guy.
Why White? (Hint: The color of purity has not always been white!) Well, I still think if the guy is pure he should wear a white suit.
What about the food, does it have to be catered or can it be something else? Somthing other than food? Only at Seth's wedding.
What about dancing at the reception? :sing: Dancin'! Dancin'! Dancin'! the night awayyyyyyyy.....
And a plethora of others that I may post as this one takes off, should anyone decide to comment... :lol: *Gets the dictionary P-L-E-*
Quote from: MelodyB on February 22, 2010, 05:13:31 AM
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How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning?
As much as the bride, and twice as much as the bride's mother.
:laughhard:
:hands over mouth:
hehe, i loved this answer too! (but i dont think i will have a problem with it as much as some of my friends... lol, but that goes for ALL of the Bride's extended family and friends and acquaintances as well!)
help is good.
forceful help is bad.
What about other traditions...
like smushing the cake in each others faces?
stealing the bride/groom away and demanding stuff to get them back?
decorating the car?
throwing rice?
unity candle verses unity sand/vases?
the bubbly drink?
not seeing the bride/groom before the ceremony?
Quote from: sunlight on February 22, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
What about other traditions...
like smushing the cake in each others faces?
stealing the bride/groom away and demanding stuff to get them back?
decorating the car?
throwing rice?
unity candle verses unity sand/vases?
the bubbly drink?
not seeing the bride/groom before the ceremony?
good questions... :biglaugh:
Quote from: sunlight on February 22, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
What about other traditions...
like smushing the cake in each others faces?
*warning tone* Don't get me going, Chel.... I think we've had this conversation before. ;)
unity candle verses unity sand/vases?I absotively, posolutely do NOT want a unity candle. Has nothing to do with the candle or the symbolism, and everything to do with horror stories regarding fire and veils. *grin* They don't mix so well.
:beret:
Quote from: SippinTea on February 22, 2010, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: sunlight on February 22, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
What about other traditions...
like smushing the cake in each others faces?
*warning tone* Don't get me going, Chel.... I think we've had this conversation before. ;)
WooHoo... like that answer... lol
unity candle verses unity sand/vases?I absotively, posolutely do NOT want a unity candle. Has nothing to do with the candle or the symbolism, and everything to do with horror stories regarding fire and veils. *grin* They don't mix so well.
*gasps* Fire and wedding veils dont mix????
Just found out what a unity sand was... lol...
:beret:
*tipped head* Shall I assume from your reply that you know the origins of the whole feeding each other cake thing, then?
The fire/veil thing... I've fought fear about fire ever since two kids died in a house fire just a couple doors away from us. And the whole idea of flames near highly flammable items? :o Yeaaahhh... no thanks. No memories of a wedding that are QUITE that exciting, thankyouverymuch. ;)
:beret:
:addnothing:
for now
But I have LOTS to say on this topic.
Quote from: SippinTea on February 22, 2010, 09:44:00 PM
*tipped head* Shall I assume from your reply that you know the origins of the whole feeding each other cake thing, then?
The fire/veil thing... I've fought fear about fire ever since two kids died in a house fire just a couple doors away from us. And the whole idea of flames near highly flammable items? :o Yeaaahhh... no thanks. No memories of a wedding that are QUITE that exciting, thankyouverymuch. ;)
:beret:
/me goes and looks up the whole feeding each other thing... cause apparently there is something else besides what i was thinking on this one... :hmm:
Quote from: YooperYankDude on February 22, 2010, 08:46:53 PM
unity candle verses unity sand/vases?I absotively, posolutely do NOT want a unity candle. Has nothing to do with the candle or the symbolism, and everything to do with horror stories regarding fire and veils. *grin* They don't mix so well.
*gasps* Fire and wedding veils dont mix????
Just found out what a unity sand was... lol...
Not to Barb and Mell! LOL
I've never heard of unity sand, either. Is it something like pouring two containers of sand into one container. Sounds weird to me.
I've found some stuff...I can post a lot on the subject
In the days of Knights and Ladies it wasn't uncommon for the groom to kidnap his bride. As the ladies' family might show up fighting, the groom stood to the officiant's left so as to have his right sword hand free. The "best man" was there to provide an extra sword should anyone show up and try to claim the bride back.
The word "Honeymoon" first was used in the 16th century. The term came from the tradition of the bride drinking mead (made of brewed, fermented honey) for one month (a lunar cycle) after the wedding ceremony to assure fertility and the 1st born to be a male.
Another version of the birth of the phrase "Honeymoon" comes from the days when the groom would take his bride by force. The custom was that the groom would go into hiding for a period equal to a lunar cycle (29 days) and would keep his bride plied with mead (the potent alcoholic brew made from honey). Thus, the phrase "Honeymoon" was born. After this period was over, the bride's family would probably have calmed down or given up and then the groom could safely bring his bride home.
CARRYING THE BRIDE ACROSS THE THRESHOLD
(Some possible beginnings of the tradition, first cited in 1549)
Some say this came from the belief that the couple were very susceptible on their wedding day to evil spirits. Carrying the bride across the threshold created a protective layer between the floor and the bride, thus protecting her from "the ground monster". In even earlier times, "demons" were said to follow the bride home after the wedding and for the same reason just stated, she was carried across the threshold, creating a barrier against the demons from then on.Many years ago it was considered "unlady like" for the bride to show outright willingness to "give herself" to her husband (even if she was actually willing and ready). So, at the entrance to the wedding (bedroom) chamber, the groom would carry her into the room, thus giving the bride a "cover" for her secret passion.
In medieval times, when brides were actually kidnapped into marriage, often she had to be dragged or carried into the bed chamber. This, some say, evolved into the tradition as we know it.Tradition states that a new wife must enter her new home by the front (or main) door and not trip or fall going in, as this would bring on bad luck. So, to avoid that possibility, the groom carries his bride into the dwelling.
In ancient times and into the middle ages, to protect the bride from "ground demons" during the wedding, flowers and flower petals were strewn in her path to create a protective barrier between her feet and the evil spitits. This tradition continues even today.
In 1499, Anne of Brittany wore the first known white wedding dress in her wedding to Louis XII of France. Women just wore their best dress up until then, but as people loved to follow the example of royalty, white wedding dresses started to be in vogue after that. Of course, women in China and Japan were wearing white as a matter of tradition...white being the color of mourning, symbolizing that the bride was leaving her family to join her husband's family, thus undergoing a symbolic death.
In ancient and biblical times, the color of purity was blue, not white. In Roman times white was the color of joyful celebration, in the 20th century...purity, and today...a symbol of happiness.
Green was always avoided, as it was thought to be unlucky. To say a girl 'had a green gown' also implied that she was of loose morals, because her dress would be grass-stained due to rolling around in the fields! Hence..."Marry in Green, ashamed to be seen".
Although Anne of Brittany supposedly wore the first white wedding dress and started its' popularity, the white dress really caught on during modern times because of Queen Victoria. In the 1840's, Queen Victoria chose white instead of the traditional royal "silver" wedding dress and broke a long standing tradition.
A white dress soon took on the symbolism of purity and virginity and was also thought to ward off evil spirits.
Other traditions are: the bride should never make her own dress, the final stitch should not be completed until she is departing for the Church and she should never try on the entire outfit before the wedding day. This was because it was felt dangerous for the Bride to count her chickens before they're hatched.
Married in White, you have chosen right
Married in Grey, you will go far away,
Married in Black, you will wish yourself back,
Married in Red, you will wish yourself dead,
Married in Green, ashamed to be seen,
Married in Blue, you will always be true,
Married in Pearl, you will live in a whirl,
Married in Yellow, ashamed of your fellow,
Married in Brown, you will live in the town,
Married in Pink, your spirit will sink
Early Brides and Bridesmaids wore similar dresses in order to confuse evil spirits.
Although bridal white, as a token of the bride's purity and innocence, is a relatively new concept, there is historical precedent for it. Henry IV of England's daughter, Princess Phillipa, is reported to have worn a tunic and mantle of white satin, edged with velvet and ermine, at her marriage to Eric of Pomerania (Denmark), in 1406. Anne of Brittany, daughter of Francis II, wore white at her third marriage in 1499 to Louis XII of France while in 1527, Marguerite of Valois is said to have married Henri of Navarre robed in white ermine and covered by a blue coat with a five-foot train.
Additionally, Mary, Queen of Scots, wore white to her wedding with the Dauphin of France in 1558, deliberately flouting the French custom that white was only to be worn in mourning for French royalty. (Ironically, her husband died two years later.) Similarly, Queen Elizabeth I is painted in her later portraits wearing white, many believe in "mourning" over the death of the Duke of Alençon, one of her proposed husbands-to-be, in order to prevent the presentation of additional suitors.
http://www.themarryingguy.com/TraditionsA.html is where I found this stuff
Wow. Lots of info there, Chris. Great stuff!
Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 23, 2010, 05:27:55 AM
Wow. Lots of info there, Chris. Great stuff!
Agreed... she really went to town on the stuff... lol.
What about doing things not so in the norm at a regular wedding
Like instead of throwing rice... everyone gets a water gun... lol. Or water balloons... of course, let everyone change into some different clothes first. Hehe
I told the guys I plan to use when/ if I get married, that they get to dress up as secret agents, and have paintball guns, and if there is anyone who is arguing or causing trouble, they get to shoot them... three paint marks, and your done! (I have a messed up family... and there are folks that always seem to fight... I don't want them ruining the day by fighting with each other...)
Quote from: YooperYankDude on February 23, 2010, 08:24:44 PM
I told the guys I plan to use when/ if I get married, that they get to dress up as secret agents, and have paintball guns, and if there is anyone who is arguing or causing trouble, they get to shoot them... three paint marks, and your done! (I have a messed up family... and there are folks that always seem to fight... I don't want them ruining the day by fighting with each other...)
Oooo.... :freaky2:.... I like that idea. May I borrow it? :grin:
:beret:
Quote from: SippinTea on February 23, 2010, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: YooperYankDude on February 23, 2010, 08:24:44 PM
I told the guys I plan to use when/ if I get married, that they get to dress up as secret agents, and have paintball guns, and if there is anyone who is arguing or causing trouble, they get to shoot them... three paint marks, and your done! (I have a messed up family... and there are folks that always seem to fight... I don't want them ruining the day by fighting with each other...)
Oooo.... :freaky2:.... I like that idea. May I borrow it? :grin:
:beret:
You betcha... can I be one of the agents? LOL
Quote from: sunlight on February 22, 2010, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: MelodyB on February 22, 2010, 05:13:31 AM
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How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning?
As much as the bride, and twice as much as the bride's mother.
:laughhard:
:hands over mouth:
hehe, i loved this answer too! (but i dont think i will have a problem with it as much as some of my friends... lol, but that goes for ALL of the Bride's extended family and friends and acquaintances as well!)
help is good.
forceful help is bad.
We've got the best mama in the world!
What about using the wedding march or a song that is more meaningful to you?
I like the (I think it's) Jewish tradition where the groom goes to get the bride instead of the bride meeting him at the end of the aisle.
Since the bride is a type of the church, and it seems that Scripture points to Christ *coming* for His bride, it seems more of a type/shadow to have the groom go to the bride somehow instead of vice-versa.
I've pondered it before... the men on the platform, as "tradition" seems to dictate...
The wedding march (or whatever music) begins.
The audience rises.
The doors open.
The groom leaves the platform and walks toward the back of the church...
Dunno how it would play out. I just like the concept.
Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 24, 2010, 12:47:51 AM
I like the (I think it's) Jewish tradition where the groom goes to get the bride instead of the bride meeting him at the end of the aisle.
Since the bride is a type of the church, and it seems that Scripture points to Christ *coming* for His bride, it seems more of a type/shadow to have the groom go to the bride somehow instead of vice-versa.
I've pondered it before... the men on the platform, as "tradition" seems to dictate...
The wedding march (or whatever music) begins.
The audience rises.
The doors open.
The groom leaves the platform and walks toward the back of the church...
Dunno how it would play out. I just like the concept.
ohhhhh neatoooooooo.... :like:
In ancient Egypt, when the father of the bride gave his daughter to the groom, dad would give his daughter's sandles to the groom to show that she now belonged to him. In later Anglo Saxon times, the groom would tap the heel of the bride's shoe to show his authority over her. Later on, somehow this shoe fixation evolved into people throwing shoes at the couple...eventually turning into the tradition of tying shoes to the bumper of the couple's car for good luck.
Giving gifts dates from the 1890's when once a friend of a bride placed small gifts inside a Japanese parasol, opened it and let all the presents "shower" over the bride's head. When this was reported in the fashion pages, it became an overnight tradition Thus, the "shower" as we know it was born.
In ancient Greece, Spartan soldiers first held "Stag Parties". The groom would be the guest for a feast with all his male friends on the night before the wedding...thus saying goodbye to the carefree days of being a bachelor. He would also swear continued allegiance to his comrades
Diamond engagement rings were popular with medieval Italians (1400's)
as they believed that the diamond was created from the "flames of Love".
Ancient Greeks believed the diamond reflected the flame of love, thinking them to be the teardrops of the gods.
Romans believed diamonds to have romantic powers, believing them to be spinters of falling stars that once tipped the arrows of Eros, the god of love.
In the Middle Ages the power to bring together estranged marriage partners was attributed to diamonds.
Rings were used in marriages in ancient Rome but were most likely made of iron, as it would be extremely bad luck if your ring should be of weak material and break.
In ancient times it was believed that the third finger of the hand had a vein that went directly to the heart. That finger being the best place to wear a ring that symbolized love.
The engagement ring represents the promise of the couple's future, sealed with the giving and accepting of a ring.
The diamond became the symbol of betrothal as its clarity and brilliance was believed to represent innocence and purity, and its strength signifying the hope of an enduring love.
When marriages were arranged by family members, the newlyweds very rarely were allowed to see one another. Family members exchanging a dowry were afraid that if the Groom didn't like the appearance of the Bride's face, he might refuse to marry her. This is why the Father of the Bride "gave the Bride away" to the Groom at the actual wedding ceremony. Only after lifting her veil just prior to the ceremony did the Groom see the Bride's face for the first time! Early Greek and Roman Brides wore red or yellow veils to represent fire, and to ward off demons.
Aside from being an alternative to the garter toss in medieval times, the carrying of flowers by the bride also came from ancient times when it was believed that strong herbs and spices carried by the bride would keep away evil spirits, bad luck and ill health.
In Roman times, the bride and groom wore floral garlands that meant new life and hope for fertility. The bouquet later signified the full bloom of womanhood.
In the 19th century, each flower had it's own meaning and different flowers were sent back and forth as messages between the bride and groom before the wedding, each flower having a special meaning and association.
Later, the flowers used for such messages were adapted into the bride's bouquet and are sometimes used by brides today.
Traditionally, the bride's bouquet is made of white flowers and have fillers such as ferns and baby's breath to give a touch of green.
The bride's bridal party goes back to ancient times, the Romans dressing the bridesmaids in dresses similar to the bride's to confuse evil spirits that might kidnap the bride.
In medieval times bridesmaids also fought off unwelcome suitors, protecting the bride for her groom.
By believing that newlyweds brought good luck, guests used to shower them with nuts and grains to insure a bountiful harvest, and many children to work the land. During years of a poor harvest, rice was tossed instead. This tradition continues today with rice or birdseed (where permitted), or bubbles to wish the Bride and Groom much happiness. Incidentally, it is not true that birds eating rice thrown after a wedding ceremony will cause their stomachs to enlarge and eventually explode. This myth may have simply evolved from church and synagogue employees weary from cleaning up after every wedding ceremony!
Something old, something new,something borrowed, something blue,and a lucky (silver) sixpence for your (her) shoe"
(from the late 19th century)
First cited in 1659 and mentioned in an 1883 newspaper article, "something old" was supposed to protect the baby born of the marriage. Today it is supposed to represent a link to the bride's family and the past. Some brides choose to wear a piece of family jewelry or a wedding gown worn by their mother or grandmother.
"Something new" (also quoted in the 1883 article) has no citations before then but represents good fortune, success, and a bright future. The wedding gown is usually chosen as the new item.
"Something borrowed" (1883 article) is supposed to be lucky for the bride and is meant to remind the bride that family and friends will be there for her when help is needed. It was especially lucky to borrow something worn by a bride from a previous wedding. ( I read elsewhere that it should be from a happily married woman)
"Something blue" (1883 article) is usually the garter, and the blue color represents faithfulness and loyalty.Blue also denotes purity.
"and a lucky (silver)sixpence for (in) your (her) shoe." wishes the bride wealth in the marriage. There is a 1774 record of a Scottish groom using a sixpence in his shoe to ward off evil from his rival and in 1814 there is a citation of a bride "wearing a piece of silver in one of her shoes" to protect her from evil from disappointed suitors.
THE FIRST KISS at the initiation of the engagement and after the completion of the ceremony dates back to Roman times where the kiss represented a legal contract
The Month You Marry
January
Mary when the year is new, he'll be loving, kind and true.
February
When February birds do mate, you wed nor dread your fate.
March
If you wed when March winds blow, joy and sorrow both you'll know.
April
Marry in April if you can, joy for maiden and for man.
May
Marry in the month of May, you will surely rue the day.
June
Marry when June roses grow and over land and sea you'll go.
July
Those who in July do wed must labor for their daily bread.
August
Whoever wed in August be, many a change is sure to see.
September
Marry in September's shine so that you life is rich and fine.
October
If in October you do marry, love will come but riches tarry.
November
If you wed in bleak November, only joys will come, remember!
December
When December's snows fall fast, marry and your love will last
Marry on Monday for health.
Tuesday for wealth.
Wednesday the best day of all.
Thursday for crosses.
Friday for losses.
And Saturday for no luck at all.
A bride apparently is very lucky - and guests would try for bits of her dess or her garter to get some of that good luck, the tradition went if a single bloke got the bride's garter and gave it to the girl he loved, she'd always be true. So in order to prevent the bride from getting turned upside down at the altar by over-eager wedding guests, the bride tosses the bouquest and the groom tosses the garter to distract the guests and to keep the bride's dress intact.
LOL 'Jaws' theme for a coming down the aisle song
Apologies, when a topic interests me, I do a lot of research....alternatively I do a lot of research when I'm bored.
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Apologies, when a topic interests me, I do a lot of research....alternatively I do a lot of research when I'm bored.
I am glad someone else is like this besides me... lol. I just didn't post all the findings yet, and it looks as though I may not have too... your doing a great job! :clap2:
Quote from: RainbowJingles on February 24, 2010, 12:47:51 AM
The wedding march (or whatever music) begins.
The audience rises.
The doors open.
The groom leaves the church...
Raimbow, that does not sound encouraging. :laughhard:
I had two friends getting married. We told the bride if she changed her mind we would drive the get away car. Told the groom if he changed his mind we would make sure the ushers had shotguns. He would not be getting very far. LOL
Quote from: YooperYankDude on February 23, 2010, 11:16:43 PM
You betcha... can I be one of the agents? LOL
Deal. Provided Grandma _____ is first on your list. *cough* :hypocrite:
:beret:
From Chris' research:
In the 19th century, each flower had it's own meaning and different flowers were sent back and forth as messages between the bride and groom before the wedding, each flower having a special meaning and association.
I like that! My brother sent his bride notes (and perhaps small gifts) during the hours before the wedding ceremony. He had apparently spent a lot of time in planning and preparing these things ahead of time. But flowers of different kinds, with special messages derived from the flowers meanings would be really awesome! :-)
Jonathan: :pound:
lol You're right. That *doesn't* sound promising whatsoever. :roll:
Hmm...the tradition of the "lucky guy" who catches the garter giving it to the girl he loved so that she would always be true.
Since I have caught the garter (when being present at the actual throwing) at every wedding for the last 7 or so weddings I have attended....and Not givning them to anyone, (except one crying little kid who was mad that he didn't get it), may well explain why I am still single.. Well, better not break that tradition!!!!! :laughhard:
Quote from: upcchris on February 24, 2010, 02:37:38 AM
LOL 'Jaws' theme for a coming down the aisle song
Hmm, I made a comment in another thread likening single ladies to sharks :couch:
Thanx for all the info. Interesting! :thumbsup2:
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LOL 'Jaws' theme for a coming down the aisle song
Hmm, I made a comment in another thread likening single ladies to sharks :couch:
So does that mean when you are eyeing over the guys, that your comparrison is a tiger shark, or the great white shark? :laughhard:
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LOL 'Jaws' theme for a coming down the aisle song
Hmm, I made a comment in another thread likening single ladies to sharks :couch:
So does that mean when you are eyeing over the guys, that your comparrison is a tiger shark, or the great white shark? :laughhard:
I think I'm more like the little fish that swims alongside and doesn't get involved.
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LOL 'Jaws' theme for a coming down the aisle song
Hmm, I made a comment in another thread likening single ladies to sharks :couch:
So does that mean when you are eyeing over the guys, that your comparrison is a tiger shark, or the great white shark? :laughhard:
I think I'm more like the little fish that swims alongside and doesn't get involved.
Watch out guys, she's the one that just waits for a sneak attack!!!!! :laughhard:
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LOL 'Jaws' theme for a coming down the aisle song
Hmm, I made a comment in another thread likening single ladies to sharks :couch:
So does that mean when you are eyeing over the guys, that your comparrison is a tiger shark, or the great white shark? :laughhard:
I think I'm more like the little fish that swims alongside and doesn't get involved.
Watch out guys, she's the one that just waits for a sneak attack (I hope!)!!!!! :laughhard:
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LOL 'Jaws' theme for a coming down the aisle song
Hmm, I made a comment in another thread likening single ladies to sharks :couch:
So does that mean when you are eyeing over the guys, that your comparrison is a tiger shark, or the great white shark? :laughhard:
I think I'm more like the little fish that swims alongside and doesn't get involved.
Watch out guys, she's the one that just waits for a sneak attack (I hope!)!!!!! :laughhard:
Lots of carnivores are like that though... :biglaugh:
Quote from: YooperYankDude on February 22, 2010, 12:57:47 AM
K... So been pondering for the last 26 yrs (yes I was a avid ponderer at a early age... things like why is my sippy cup blue instead of red? Why Pampers? Do I have to kiss my little sister in this picture for Oma? What is a Oma? Where did my did little sister come from? Where's daddy?) Lol...
Why are the wedding traditions that we have, the ones we have?
Are all wedding traditions good?
No!
How big should a wedding be?
As SMALL as you want. :)
How much should someone spend?
It isn't the budget so much as how wisely it is spent.
Should they go into debt for one?
A LITTLE debt is ok. :)
Should they go into debt for a honeymoon?
See above
Which church should host the wedding?
Mmmmmm..... I personal preference: NO Church. The MGM Grand in Vegas is MUCH better!
Does it have to be held inside a church?
See above
How much say does a groom have in the wedding planning?
Should be 50% but is usually 5%..... Any episode of Bridezilla with confirm this.
Is a dress other than white bad?
Nope
Why White? (Hint: The color of purity has not always been white!)
What about the food, does it have to be catered or can it be something else?
Catered!! Do not! I repeat, do NOT go with the pot luck!!!
What about dancing at the reception?
Absolutely!!
And a plethora of others that I may post as this one takes off, should anyone decide to comment... :lol:
I have come to my own conclusion on these and more over the last 26 years... among others... but curious as to what everyone else has to say about it. And since not everyone on here is single, I though some insight from the married people would be of value as well... :lol:
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LOL 'Jaws' theme for a coming down the aisle song
Hmm, I made a comment in another thread likening single ladies to sharks :couch:
So does that mean when you are eyeing over the guys, that your comparrison is a tiger shark, or the great white shark? :laughhard:
I think I'm more like the little fish that swims alongside and doesn't get involved.
Watch out guys, she's the one that just waits for a sneak attack (I hope!)!!!!! :laughhard:
Lots of carnivores are like that though... :biglaugh:
BOL! Guys! *shakes head*....I'm more like the girl on the sidelines watching the ladies circle their prey with a mixture of exasperation and bemusement....I'm the girl with too many issues to get involved and fly with the vultures. :lol: I don't do confrontational stuff like that...God is the only one who says who my mate is. I don't need to be asked 'who do you like...who do you think is cute' *gag* as if that was all that mattered! :lol: God casts the deciding vote...He is the only one who knows who my other half is...I'm not gonna go after a bloke who's not my intended...so I don't go after blokes at all...the ball's always in their court...in the meantime....I'm just a sympathetic ear and a good listener....and a good friend....if you don't count the fact that I'm not good at keeping in touch....I've lost touch with most of them :lol::oops:
:grin: /me hugs Chris
That was a great post! I totally agree!
Aww thanks Sunlight. *HUGS*
Quote from: sunlight on February 27, 2010, 02:11:53 PM
:grin: /me hugs Chris
That was a great post! I totally agree!
I second that... :lol:
Tee hee. Good post. And I'm right with ya. I'm generally the shoulder they cry on when they're upset about a certain gal not paying them any attention.
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The WORST wedding tradition (at least in apostolic circles) is: The church basement reception!
And also popular at my old church: Getting married on Saturday night and showing up for Sunday morning service! (My theory is this happened because the couples just wanted to be seen finally being allowed to sit together for the first time. The pastor I had when we were married was quite the opposite, he told us we better not show our faces -from the hotel room, till sometime afternoon the next day. LOL)
LOL... thats great advice...