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So I was talking to a friend, and they told me they were reading this article...
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2003/03/caring-for-your-introvert/2696/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2003/03/caring-for-your-introvert/2696/)

And it got me to thinking, am I an introvert?

Then I found this test... and i am usually very skeptical on online personality tests, but I recognized the name from when I was entering college for the first time.. so I took it... very interesting results... very accurate results...

Check it out... and then lets us know...


Identify your personality type...

This test is based on Carl Jung and Isabel Myers-Briggs typological approach to personality. When answering questions, please choose one of two possible answers you agree the most. If you are not sure how to answer then the decision should be based on your most typical reaction or feeling in the given situation. Respond to all questions to get a reliable result.

Press "Score It" button after you are done answering the questions. Upon completion, you will obtain online:

Your type formula according to Carl Jung and Isabel Myers-Briggs typology along with the strengths of the preferences
The description of your personality type
The list of occupations and educational institutions where you can get relevant degree or training, most suitable for your personality type - Jung Career Indicator™
You can also use the type formula and strength of the preferences to assess online compatibility with your mate in the Jung Marriage Test and Demo of the Marriage Test

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp)


Yoops Type is  INFJ

Strength of the preferences %
Introverted   - 67
Intuitive   - 38
Feeling   - 25
Judging      - 44

Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
distinctively expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
moderately expressed judging personality

Not sure I agree but this is what it said.



You are:
moderately expressed extravert
slightly expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
slightly expressed judging personality

So what type did they set you as?  An ENFJ?

Did you read any of the links that had to go along with the personality types?

Of all the Idealists, the Teacher (ENFJ) is the most likely to seek leadership positions in the private or public sector. The Teacher is drawn to careers in education or social services, such as college professor, high school teacher, social worker, or non-profit director. In business they are often trainers, sales managers, recruiters, or executives. Since they are good at building relationships, they may be fund raisers or recruiters. They also are found in jobs such as a health advisor, clergy, facilitator, or counselor. Says Rene, "It's very important to me to really connect with my students. I need to feel that I am making a difference in their lives."

The Counselor (INFJ) is a more private person than the Teacher. They, too, can be found in the field of education as a professor , teacher, counselor, or educational consultant. Sometimes they feel a strong calling toward the religious life as clergy, nun, or director of religious education. Social service jobs, such as social worker, social scientist, or mediator can fit their needs. Some Counselors work in human services, marketing, or as a job analyst. Others are drawn to the arts as a novelist, designer, or artist. Says Benito, "My art is very personal. It expresses who I am at the same time reaching out to draw the viewer in. My art changes the viewer's perspective of reality."

Here is a link that discusses the different types...

http://typelogic.com/enfj.html

Your Type is
INFP


Introverted 67
Intuitive 12
Feeling 25
Perceiving 33

You are:
distinctively expressed introvert

slightly expressed intuitive personality

moderately expressed feeling personality

moderately expressed perceiving personality

Your Type is:
ISFJ

Introverted 89%   
Sensing 12%
Feeling 25%
Judging 67%

You are:

    * very expressed introvert
    * slightly expressed sensing personality
    * moderately expressed feeling personality
    * distinctively expressed judging personality


"Mother Teresa, George H.W. Bush, Jimmy Stewart, and Tsar Nicholas II are examples of Protector Guardian style."

Famous ISFJs:

St. Teresa of Avila (Teresa de Jesus)
Louisa May Alcott
Alfred, Lord Tennyson
Queen Elizabeth II of England
Robert E. Lee
Queen Mary I ("Bloody Mary") of England

U.S. Presidents:
    William Howard Taft

Johnny Carson, comedian
Robin Roberts (Good Morning America)
Kristi Yamaguchi, US Olympic figure skater
Ed Bradley, journalist

Fictional:
Bianca in Taming of the Shrew
David Copperfield
Hero in Much Ado About Nothing
Melanie in Gone With The Wind
Ophelia in Hamlet
Dr. John H. Watson, M.D. (Sherlock Holmes' faithful sidekick)

:addnothing:

Gonna have to come back to take this one.

I'm almost sure I don't agree with it but . .

My type : ESTJ

You are:
slightly expressed extravert

slightly expressed sensing personality

slightly expressed thinking personality

moderately expressed judging personality

Quote from: TheGirl on April 30, 2010, 02:06:14 PM
I'm almost sure I don't agree with it but . .

My type : ESTJ

You are:
slightly expressed extravert

slightly expressed sensing personality

slightly expressed thinking personality

moderately expressed judging personality

Extraverted Thinking

ESTJs are very good at making impersonal decisions quickly, and standing by those decisions. They live in their Extraverted Thinking functioning, thus, their prime directive is in discovering that which is true and logical in the events of the real world. Circumstances calling for product invite the ESTJ to supervise or direct other individuals toward production and productivity. Extraverts are attracted to the "object," the external things and people in observable reality. This bent translates into a natural interest in goods and material objects. >

Introverted Sensing

The secondary Introverted Sensing is like that of the ISTJ, but not as strong. Si provides practical form and concept data to the Te head, however, form is not the overriding principle, especially if Thinking has already decided. In times of need, ESTJs are tempted to overlook even necessary information if its absence impedes closure. Secondary sensing sometimes translates into interest in sports. The persistence of primary Thinking gives many ESTJs a desire for discipline and regimen which can be beneficial in skills development in the arena. >

Extraverted iNtuition

As the ESTJ matures, and as situations arise which call for suspension of criticism, Extraverted iNtuition is allowed to play. Under the leadership of the Te function, iNtuition gravitates toward the discovery of broad categories which at worst amount to stereotypes. Those ESTJs who hone their Ne abilities may find success in academia. (I've encountered ESTJs whose Ne overshadows the auxiliary Si function--for whatever reason--to the extent that there is an appearance of NT radical geekism.)

Introverted Feeling

This function may rarely be expressed. ESTJs who have cultivated, or have been blessed with, a "natural indirect expression of good will by inference," have great prospects of developing genuine friendships (as opposed to ESTJs who merely act out the behavior of Extraverted Feeling). Such a weak, introverted function is best observed in facial expression, eye contact, body language, and verbally only by implication.

Famous ESTJs:
Simon Peter (Christ's disciple)
John Heywood (c.1497-c.1580, collector of English colloquialisms)

U.S. Presidents:
James Monroe
Andrew Jackson
William Henry "Tippecanoe" Harrison
Franklin Pierce
Grover Cleveland
Harry S. Truman
Lyndon B. Johnson
George W. Bush
Carrie Nation
Elliot Ness
John D. Rockefeller
Bette Davis
Robert A. Taft (U.S. senator, son of Pres. Wm. H. Taft)
Sam Walton, owner and founder of WalMart stores
Barbara Stanwyck
Rev. Billy Graham
Dale Bumpers (U.S. Senator, D-Arkansas)
Phil Fulmer, head football coach of the U. Tenn Vols
Pat Head Summit, head basketball coach of the Lady Vols
Bill Frist, M.D. (U.S. Senate Majority Leader)

Fictional:
Lucy (Charles Schultz's Peanuts character) - Remind me never to play football or baseball with you...
Mrs. Harbottle (Herriott, All Creatures Great and Small)
Mrs. Rachel Lynde (Anne of Green Gables)  - That explains your discomfort at all the attention redheads get... LOL, jk   :cool:
The Mayor (The Music Man)

LOL!! I don't care if every guy in the world wants a redhead  :teeth:

Extraverts are attracted to the "object," the external things and people in observable reality. This bent translates into a natural interest in goods and material objects. >

^this makes "my type" sound bad. . .I've failed this test lol

maybe this explains why i've always thought my and Sam Walton would have been great friends..jk

INTJ

moderately expressed introvert  33%

moderately expressed intuitive personality 50%

slightly expressed thinking personality  12%

moderately expressed judging personality  33%

INFJ
Introverted   Intuitive   Feeling   Judging
Strength of the preferences %
11   25   12   89

    * slightly expressed introvert
    * moderately expressed intuitive personality
    * slightly expressed feeling personality
    * very expressed judging personality

It says I'm an "Inspector' apparently in the 'Guardian' division

Your Type is
ISTJ
Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences % 
56 12 12 56


Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
moderately expressed introvert

slightly expressed sensing personality

slightly expressed thinking personality

moderately expressed judging personality

i had to do this for sociology last semester. can't remember what exactly i was, but it began with extrovert...lol.  but i think that comes with theatre kids...

Quote from: Newsman on May 01, 2010, 03:15:17 PM
It says I'm an "Inspector' apparently in the 'Guardian' division

Your Type is
ISTJ
Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences % 
56 12 12 56


Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
moderately expressed introvert

slightly expressed sensing personality

slightly expressed thinking personality

moderately expressed judging personality

ROFL... interesting... and inspector... who would of though...   :grin:

ENFJ

Extraverted   44
Intuitive   62
Feeling   38
Judging      44

You are:

    * moderately expressed extravert
    * distinctively expressed intuitive personality
    * moderately expressed feeling personality
    * moderately expressed judging personality

Out side of church and religious situations I am basically anti social.

Quote from: Scott on May 02, 2010, 02:07:00 AM
Out side of church and religious situations I am basically anti social.

with the lovable avatar you use and the security bar scan i would never have thought that you would be anti social. LOL

So can someone change their personality type...?

Maybe we can't but God can. . I think people may see things about themselves they might not like and try to adjust them

personality type, I don't think so, the negative things that God didn't put in us, yes.   

And though we are who we are, Paul said he was all things to all people.  I think we can adapt if not appreciate the other personalities and enjoy what they have.  I am not a sanguine, but my daughter is.  On my own I don't care for such lightheartedness all the time, but with her I can thoroughly enjoy it and appreciate that she brings that to the world.  The same with choleric/get stuff done no socialization people, I'm social but can enjoy getting things accomplished effeciently too.  Make sense?

Your Type is: INTJ

Introverted 44%

Intuitive 75%

Thinking 12%

Judging 33%


Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:

    * moderately expressed introvert
    * distinctively expressed intuitive personality
    * slightly expressed thinking personality
    * moderately expressed judging personality

All Rationals are good at planning operations, but Masterminds are head and shoulders above all the rest in contingency planning. Complex operations involve many steps or stages, one following another in a necessary progression, and Masterminds are naturally able to grasp how each one leads to the next, and to prepare alternatives for difficulties that are likely to arise any step of the way. Trying to anticipate every contingency, Masterminds never set off on their current project without a Plan A firmly in mind, but they are always prepared to switch to Plan B or C or D if need be.

Masterminds are rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population, and they are rarely encountered outside their office, factory, school, or laboratory. Although they are highly capable leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once they take charge, however, they are thoroughgoing pragmatists. Masterminds are certain that efficiency is indispensable in a well-run organization, and if they encounter inefficiency-any waste of human and material resources-they are quick to realign operations and reassign personnel. Masterminds do not feel bound by established rules and procedures, and traditional authority does not impress them, nor do slogans or catchwords. Only ideas that make sense to them are adopted; those that don't, aren't, no matter who thought of them. Remember, their aim is always maximum efficiency.

In their careers, Masterminds usually rise to positions of responsibility, for they work long and hard and are dedicated in their pursuit of goals, sparing neither their own time and effort nor that of their colleagues and employees. Problem-solving is highly stimulating to Masterminds, who love responding to tangled systems that require careful sorting out. Ordinarily, they verbalize the positive and avoid comments of a negative nature; they are more interested in moving an organization forward than dwelling on mistakes of the past.

Masterminds tend to be much more definite and self-confident than other Rationals, having usually developed a very strong will. Decisions come easily to them; in fact, they can hardly rest until they have things settled and decided. But before they decide anything, they must do the research. Masterminds are highly theoretical, but they insist on looking at all available data before they embrace an idea, and they are suspicious of any statement that is based on shoddy research, or that is not checked against reality.

Your Type is
INFP
Introverted 56
Intuitive 50
Feeling 62
Perceiving 22


Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:

    * moderately expressed introvert
    * moderately expressed intuitive personality
    * distinctively expressed feeling personality
    * slightly expressed perceiving personality

Healers present a calm and serene face to the world, and can seem shy, even distant around others. But inside they're anything but serene, having a capacity for personal caring rarely found in the other types. Healers care deeply about the inner life of a few special persons, or about a favorite cause in the world at large. And their great passion is to heal the conflicts that trouble individuals, or that divide groups, and thus to bring wholeness, or health, to themselves, their loved ones, and their community.

Healers have a profound sense of idealism that comes from a strong personal sense of right and wrong. They conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place, full of wondrous possibilities and potential goods. In fact, to understand Healers, we must understand that their deep commitment to the positive and the good is almost boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for someone or something they believe in. Set off from the rest of humanity by their privacy and scarcity (around one percent of the population), Healers can feel even more isolated in the purity of their idealism.

Also, Healers might well feel a sense of separation because of their often misunderstood childhood. Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood-they are the prince or princess of fairy tales-an attitude which, sadly, is frowned upon, or even punished, by many parents. With parents who want them to get their head out of the clouds, Healers begin to believe they are bad to be so fanciful, so dreamy, and can come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. In truth, they are quite OK just as they are, only different from most others-swans reared in a family of ducks.

At work, Healers are adaptable, welcome new ideas and new information, are patient with complicated situations, but impatient with routine details. Healers are keenly aware of people and their feelings, and relate well with most others. Because of their deep-seated reserve, however, they can work quite happily alone. When making decisions, Healers follow their heart not their head, which means they can make errors of fact, but seldom of feeling. They have a natural interest in scholarly activities and demonstrate, like the other Idealists, a remarkable facility with language. They have a gift for interpreting stories, as well as for creating them, and thus often write in lyric, poetic fashion. Frequently they hear a call to go forth into the world and help others, a call they seem ready to answer, even if they must sacrifice their own comfort.

:beret:

Wow....

Your Type is

INTJ

Introverted   Intuitive   Thinking   Judging
89           25            12           33

You are:
very expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
slightly expressed thinking personality
moderately expressed judging personality


http://keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=5&c=mastermind

All Rationals are good at planning operations, but Masterminds are head and shoulders above all the rest in contingency planning. Complex operations involve many steps or stages, one following another in a necessary progression, and Masterminds are naturally able to grasp how each one leads to the next, and to prepare alternatives for difficulties that are likely to arise any step of the way. Trying to anticipate every contingency, Masterminds never set off on their current project without a Plan A firmly in mind, but they are always prepared to switch to Plan B or C or D if need be.

Masterminds are rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population, and they are rarely encountered outside their office, factory, school, or laboratory. Although they are highly capable leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once they take charge, however, they are thoroughgoing pragmatists. Masterminds are certain that efficiency is indispensable in a well-run organization, and if they encounter inefficiency-any waste of human and material resources-they are quick to realign operations and reassign personnel. Masterminds do not feel bound by established rules and procedures, and traditional authority does not impress them, nor do slogans or catchwords. Only ideas that make sense to them are adopted; those that don't, aren't, no matter who thought of them. Remember, their aim is always maximum efficiency.

In their careers, Masterminds usually rise to positions of responsibility, for they work long and hard and are dedicated in their pursuit of goals, sparing neither their own time and effort nor that of their colleagues and employees. Problem-solving is highly stimulating to Masterminds, who love responding to tangled systems that require careful sorting out. Ordinarily, they verbalize the positive and avoid comments of a negative nature; they are more interested in moving an organization forward than dwelling on mistakes of the past.

Masterminds tend to be much more definite and self-confident than other Rationals, having usually developed a very strong will. Decisions come easily to them; in fact, they can hardly rest until they have things settled and decided. But before they decide anything, they must do the research. Masterminds are highly theoretical, but they insist on looking at all available data before they embrace an idea, and they are suspicious of any statement that is based on shoddy research, or that is not checked against reality.

Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, Dwight D. Eisenhower, General Ulysses S. Grant, Frideriche Nietzsche, Niels Bohr, Peter the Great, Stephen Hawking, John Maynard Keynes, Lise Meitner, Ayn Rand and Sir Isaac Newton are examples of Rational Masterminds.

Some more:  http://typelogic.com/intj.html

I ARE SPECIAL!  (Like Meller and Soggy) :ugly:

Quote from: MellowYellow on May 04, 2010, 07:47:17 PM
personality type, I don't think so, the negative things that God didn't put in us, yes.   

And though we are who we are, Paul said he was all things to all people.  I think we can adapt if not appreciate the other personalities and enjoy what they have.  I am not a sanguine, but my daughter is.  On my own I don't care for such lightheartedness all the time, but with her I can thoroughly enjoy it and appreciate that she brings that to the world.  The same with choleric/get stuff done no socialization people, I'm social but can enjoy getting things accomplished effeciently too.  Make sense?

Yes, it does :)

I guess I am just interested in the different ways people interact and why. I personally think a personality type has a lot to do with it.

I was very shy as a child, and very much a loner, I kept to myself, and enjoy doing things I like that do not require an entire group of people. Such as reading, nature and landscape photography, hiking, zoo's, road trips...

As I got older (say around 14), I realized that I didn't have good communication skills for people due to the fact that I was such a loner, and a bit of an introvert. So I started making attempts for meeting people, and got quite good at it... and 10th grade in high school, I had a lot of friends who thought I was a good listener, so I always had people talking to me about stuff, but I still didn't confide very much in them.

I am still like that quite a bit, I enjoy my alone time, time to think and ponder, away from everyone... but at the same time, there is the "need" to be listening to someone... not sure if that makes sense. I enjoy being able to help people by just being someone they can talk to... even if they never go on a road trip with me, or to the zoo, or up the mountain...

I do enjoy company... and those who have met me can attest, that at times I am quite the talker, but I also still have trouble confiding my thoughts in others...

But what I want to learn, and what interests me with the personality types, is how I can learn to interact with the different ones. Once you identify what type someone is, you can more fully understand why they do certain things.

Make sense to anyone...?

Characteristics of INFJs

INFJs are conscientious and value-driven. They seek meaning in relationships, ideas, and events, with an eye toward better understanding themselves and others. Using their intuitive skills, they develop a clear vision, which they then execute decisively to better the lives of others. Like their INTJ counterparts, INFJs regard problems as opportunities to design and implement creative solutions.[14]

INFJs are quiet, private individuals who prefer to exercise their influence behind the scenes. Although very independent, INFJs are intensely interested in the well-being of others. INFJs prefer one-on-one relationships to large groups. Sensitive and complex, they are adept at understanding complicated issues and driven to resolve differences in a cooperative and creative manner. [3]

INFJs have a rich, vivid inner life, which they may be reluctant to share with those around them. Nevertheless, they are congenial in their interactions, and perceptive of the emotions of others. Generally well-liked by their peers, they may often be considered close friends and confidants by most other types. However, they are guarded in expressing their own feelings, especially to new people, and so tend to establish close relationships slowly. INFJs tend to be easily hurt, though they may not reveal this except to their closest companions. INFJs may "silently withdraw as a way of setting limits," rather than expressing their wounded feelings—a behavior that may leave others confused and upset.[15]

INFJs tend to be sensitive, quiet leaders with a great depth of personality. They are intricately and deeply woven, mysterious, and highly complex, sometimes puzzling even to themselves. They have an orderly view toward the world, but are internally arranged in a complex way that only they can understand. Abstract in communicating, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities. With a natural affinity for art, INFJs tend to be creative and easily inspired.[16] Yet they may also do well in the sciences, aided by their intuition.[17]

According to the test, I am an INFJ.

Yes, you are, dearie. Yes, you are. *smile*

:beret:

:grin: /me hugs Urby

I am an introvert, and reading the article....I wasn't impressed. This is not a light exploration of an idea, it's more like a rant. The last few thoughts, personally, I found insulting. "More intelligent, more reflective, more independent, more level-headed, more refined, and more sensitive than extroverts" I think not! Just by publishing something like that indicates a clear lack of both intelligence and sensitivity. To be frank, it was just plain rude. :mad:

I'll admit that the beginning of the article expressed some interesting ideas, but became a bit too personal towards the end. Apologies, I just had to get that off my chest.

On the upside I learned a few new words.

I think I may have answered a few questions wrong ( but I was sure it was right :-?)

Your Type is
ISTJ
Introverted 67%
Sensing 1%
Thinking 1%
Judging 11%

Guardian portrait of the Inspector

The one word that best describes Inspectors is superdependable. Whether at home or at work, Inspectors are extraordinarily persevering and dutiful, particularly when it comes to keeping an eye on the people and products they are responsible for. In their quiet way, Inspectors see to it that rules are followed, laws are respected, and standards are upheld.

Inspectors (as much as ten percent of the general population) are the true guardians of institutions. They are patient with their work and with the procedures within an institution, although not always with the unauthorized behavior of some people in that institution. Responsible to the core, Inspectors like it when people know their duties, follow the guidelines, and operate within the rules. For their part, Inspectors will see to it that goods are examined and schedules are kept, that resources will be up to standards and delivered when and where they are supposed to be. And they would prefer that everyone be this dependable. Inspectors can be hard-nosed about the need for following the rules in the workplace, and do not hesitate to report irregularities to the proper authorities. Because of this they are often misjudged as being hard-hearted, or as having ice in their veins, for people fail to see their good intentions and their vulnerability to criticism. Also, because Inspectors usually make their inspections without much flourish or fanfare, the dedication they bring to their work can go unnoticed and unappreciated.


While not as talkative as Supervisor Guardians [ESTJs], Inspectors are still highly sociable, and are likely to be involved in community service organizations, such as Sunday School, Little League, or Boy and Girl Scouting, that transmit traditional values to the young. Like all Guardians, Inspectors hold dear their family social ceremonies-weddings, birthdays, and anniversaries - although they tend to be shy if the occasion becomes too large or too public. Generally speaking, Inspectors are not comfortable with anything that gets too fancy. Their words tend to be plain and down-to-earth, not showy or high-flown; their clothes are often simple and conservative rather than of the latest fashion; and their home and work environments are usually neat, orderly, and traditional, rather than trendy or ostentatious. As for personal property, they usually choose standard items over models loaded with features, and they often try to find classics and antiques - Inspectors prefer the old-fashioned to the newfangled every time.

Queen Elizabeth II, Harry S. Truman, Warren Buffet, Queen Victoria, James K. Polk, and J.D. Rockefeller are examples of Inspector Guardians.
Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging
by Joe Butt
Profile: ISTJ
Revision: 3.0
Date of Revision: 27 Feb 2005


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"It is in keeping with tradition throughout our history that I should express simply and directly the opinions which I hold concerning some of the matters of present importance." --Herbert Hoover, Inaugural Address, Monday, March 4, 1929.
ISTJs are often called inspectors. They have a keen sense of right and wrong, especially in their area of interest and/or responsibility. They are noted for devotion to duty. Punctuality is a watchword of the ISTJ. The secretary, clerk, or business(wo)man by whom others set their clocks is likely to be an ISTJ.

As do other Introverted Thinkers, ISTJs often give the initial impression of being aloof and perhaps somewhat cold. Effusive expression of emotional warmth is not something that ISTJs do without considerable energy loss.

ISTJs are most at home with "just the facts, Ma'am." They seem to perform at highest efficiency when employing a step-by-step approach. Once a new procedure has proven itself (i.e., has been shown "to work,") the ISTJ can be depended upon to carry it through, even at the expense of their own health.

ISTJs are easily frustrated by the inconsistencies of others, especially when the second parties don't keep their commitments. But they usually keep their feelings to themselves unless they are asked. And when asked, they don't mince words. Truth wins out over tact. The grim determination of the ISTJ vindicates itself in officiation of sports events, judiciary functions, or an other situation which requires making tough calls and sticking to them.

His SJ orientation draws the ISTJ into the service of established institutions. Home, social clubs, government, schools, the military, churches -- these are the bastions of the SJ. "We've always done it this way" is often reason enough for many ISTJs. Threats to time-honored traditions or established organizations (e.g., a "run" on the bank) are the undoing of SJs, and are to be fought at all costs.

Functional Analysis

Introverted Sensing
Si is oriented toward the world of forms, essences, generics. Time is such a form, a quantifiable essense of exactitude, the standard to which external events are held. For both of the IS_J types, the sense of propriety comes from the clear definition of these internal forms. An apple "should" have certain qualities, against which all apples are evaluated. A "proper" chair has four legs, (and other qualities this poor INTP can only guess). Jung viewed introverted sensing as something of an oxymoron, in that the natural direction of senses is outward toward the object, rather than inward and away from it. One has the sense that Introverted Sensors are drawn more to the measure of the concept of the perceived object than to the experience of that perception.
Extraverted Thinking
The moderation of the Te function serves to socialize the expression of these forms. When the Si function is ready to relinquish the data, Te may speak. Otherwise, silence is golden. ISTJs seem to have a few favorite forms (the tried and true) which may serve for most occasions. My ISTJ dad woke me every morning with the same phrase for more years than I care to remember. Asked, "How are you?" he answered with the same stock phrase. ("As well as my age and habits will permit" was used for about two decades.) "It's a good form, a sound form--it's the form for me."
Introverted Feeling
Since Fi is turned inward, it is rarely expressed. Perhaps this enables the ISTJ to resolutely accept that "we are all doomed." When told that Lazarus had died, Thomas said, "Let us go and die with him." (He could just as well have said something like, "I knew this was bound to happen sooner or later.") Only in times of great distress is the Introverted Feeling expressed (as I witnessed in my dad when a neighbor's son was killed in a hunting accident). Otherwise, feeling is inferred, or expressed nonverbally, through eye contact, or an encouraging smile.
Extraverted Intuition
The Ne function of an ISTJ does not serve her very well. It needs a lot of help. She was surprised, for example, to find that someone she had talked with only by phone had red hair, because she "didn't usually like" people with red hair! This inferior Ne seems to be a major source of, and a natural breeding ground for, stereotypes. Failure of the banking system is but one bogeyman which arises from the fear which feeds on the ISTJ's mistrust of real world possibilities. The shadow inhabiting the inferior Ne strikes at the precious forms and standards in the heart of the dominant Si function.
Famous ISTJs:
Thomas (Christ's disciple)
U.S. Presidents:
George Washington
Andrew Johnson
Benjamin Harrison
Herbert Hoover
George H. W. Bush
Paul Coverdale (U.S. Senator, R-GA)
Jackie Joyner-Kersee (U.S. Olympic athlete)
Evander Holyfield, heavyweight boxing champion

Fictional ISTJs:
Joe Friday
Mr. Martin (hero of James Thurber's Sitting in the Catbird Seat)
Eeyore (Winnie the Pooh)
Fred Mertz (I Love Lucy)
Puddleglum, the marshwiggle (Chronicles of Narnia) Cliff (Cheers)

That's what I thought upcchris cause I got the mastermind one...lol

Yooper, there is a great book about personalities and how to make the most of them.  It has a Christian undertone and commentary examples that everyone can identify with.  Our church did a 6 wk. course on it and it changed my life! I haven't learned to read people online well but in person, it has made it so helpful.  It also deals slightly with those that God created to be a certain personality but because of extreme circumstances they have learned to adapt by kind of masking who they are.  Like an otherwise bubbly lady might be very melancholy because of child abuse.  This person would seem to have almost counter personalities at times and this book is almost a tool.  

It's also edifying in the fact that it encourages to accentuate the good traits and address maybe the negative ones that tend to go with certain personalities.  I have found that with the negative aspects of my personality that through prayer of course and interacting with those who have the opposite from my flaw, it helps me work on it.  And it becomes evident, either accidently because I'm thinking that way or subtily by the author that God creates us bent a certain way, and without God we tend to be one way but with God we are the other side of the same coin.  Still the same personality but now profitable and edifying through Christ.  

I think you'd like it!



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I've heard of that book! The four personality types: Sanguine, Choleric, Phlegmatic or Melancolic(sp?)

Quote from: MellowYellow on May 05, 2010, 04:43:42 PM
...those that God created to be a certain personality but because of extreme circumstances they have learned to adapt by kind of masking who they are.  Like an otherwise bubbly lady might be very melancholy because of child abuse.  This person would seem to have almost counter personalities at times...

That's true, past experiences and things like that shape our personality, even if we would've had a completely different personality had that not happened. Nurture plays a pivotal role in shaping who we are. I'm not saying that Nature doesn't too...but sometimes it's not in our nature to act as we do, but it is because of past situations that makes us react in a certain way....

Am I rambling? :-?

no, you're right.  What's awesome is that the Holy Ghost does heal those things and one finds themself learning to see themselves for who God created them to be, and it's FREEing.

Like the melancholy w/o Jesus is insecure, and reads too much into anything toward them.  But w/ Jesus, they contain the sensitivity needed for others, and are able to better speak into people's lives.

If anyone wondered what personality type The Cheese is, wonder no more...
http://typelogic.com/istj.html

Take special note of the fictional ISTJs at the bottom of the page. *cough* :D 

:beret:

True that!

<~~~ shy, meek, mild, wall flower  :freaky2:

Quote from: SippinTea on May 17, 2010, 04:58:52 PM
If anyone wondered what personality type The Cheese is, wonder no more...
http://typelogic.com/istj.html

Take special note of the fictional ISTJs at the bottom of the page. *cough* :D 

:beret:

That 'splains a lot!
Someone's choice for a weekend to spend with thier favorite fictional character is on that list!

Your Type is
INFJ
Introverted   Intuitive   Feeling   Judging
Strength of the preferences %
67   12   12   44

INFJ type description by D.Keirsey
INFJ Identify Your Career with Jung Career Indicator™     INFJ Famous Personalities
INFJ type description by J. Butt and M.M. Heiss



Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:

    * distinctively expressed introvert
    * slightly expressed intuitive personality
    * slightly expressed feeling personality
    * moderately expressed judging personality

Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences % 
11 25 25 44
It says I am:
slightly expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed thinking personality
moderately expressed judging personality

I'm not sure I agree with that.
Is there a retrovert?